Re:Public defender: it’s impossible for me to do a good job ...
by asuffield on Sunday September 06, 2015 @12:56PM
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> I cannot understand why people really think any system is so foolproof as to charge only those guilty.
A cynical observer might make a connection between the people who think that and the inability of the system to charge only those guilty.
Re:Public defender: it’s impossible for me to do a good job ...
by throwawayaway on Sunday September 06, 2015 @12:57PM
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It's relatively easy to get people on your side of that debate. Tell them about how often people who have been convicted to face the death penalty are later exonerated.
Re:Public defender: it’s impossible for me to do a good job ...
by nitrogen on Sunday September 06, 2015 @01:03PM
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People will still say they must have done something wrong to end up there in the first place.
Re:Public defender: it’s impossible for me to do a good job ...
by newjersey on Sunday September 06, 2015 @03:19PM
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The mom who apparently told her son that she would not bail him out also proudly told the reporter she told her son to not drop the soap in prison. A lot of people praised her for what she said. I am just sad that people think criminals deserve sexual assault as part and parcel of being in prison. The Jared from Subway who was convicted of sexual offenses against children faced similar public decries. People laugh at the idea of sexual assault and rape in prison. People here in the US laugh at the idea of sexual assault and rape in prison. When I approach them and tell them to reconsider what they're saying, they call me an accessory to sexual crime against children. I don't get it.
An old saying says judge a society bynhownit treatsnits worst-off people. When I think about what I've had to hear from otherwise sane, well-educated, and well-travelled people makes me wonder if there's any hope for humanity at all.
Re:Public defender: it’s impossible for me to do a good job ...
by mratzloff on Sunday September 06, 2015 @03:55PM
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Yes, I've been saying this for years. It's astonishing how rare it is to hear someone express the same viewpoint. It disgusts me when people laugh about the idea of (specifically male) rape in prison, as if it is justice. But for whatever reason people have a very different reaction to rape when the victim is male instead of female.
I ask them two questions to get them to reconsider their position:
1. Do prisoners deserve to be raped as a form of punishment?
2. So you believe that women should be raped as punishment?
I believe that a just and fair society should never allow sexual assault to be used as a punishment. This is true whether someone in prison is guilty or innocent.
This attitude that "criminals deserve no justice" that is pervasive nearly everywhere amazes me. I cannot understand why people really think any system is so foolproof as to charge only those guilty.