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Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by maratd on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @07:44AM (#10151746)
> It is very hard to take risks when you are not financially secure

There's a caveat here. It depends on your responsibilities. If you have children, fixed expenses, then absolutely.

If you have nothing to your name and no responsibilities, it's very easy to take risks without anything to fall back on. After all, you have very little to lose.

Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by Jacqued on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @08:35AM (#10151896)
You can always lose your own life, pretty much. If you can go back to your old room at your parent's room while you find a job and start earning again, sure, it's easy to take risks (I've done it this way).

On the other hand, if you come from a rather poor background and have no one to fall back on, finding yourself with a failed company, in debt, maybe kicked out of your place because you can't pay rent, I'd say that rather terrifying.

I'm all for entrepreneurship, but if failing means living in the street, then let's just not start a company for now.

Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by maratd on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @10:00AM (#10152338)
> in debt, maybe kicked out of your place because you can't pay rent, I'd say that rather terrifying.

There are two types of businesses out there. Those that make money from day 1 and simply need to be scaled up. Those that require substantial investment and time before you even make a penny.

For anyone who isn't financially secure, doing the latter is idiotic. There are plenty of business models that you can pursue that don't involve you ending up on the street. A business model where the worst-case scenario is that you wasted some time.

Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by fataliss on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @10:36AM (#10152609)
While it is true that you have profitable businesses from day 1 or almost, it still reduces your chances to be able to be an entrepreneur coming from the bottom. This article doesn't say it's impossible. Just that it's less likely/harder. That's a hard truth. You can build around all you want, there is no denying it.
Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by wageslave420 on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @12:11PM (#10153426)
> If you can go back to your old room at your parent's room

Gee here we are again talking about the parents. Why not just ask your parents for a million dollar business loan while you're at it Mitt Romney?

Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by jrochkind1 on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @08:44AM (#10151927)
That might (or might not) be true materially; but I would not ignore the psychological effects of growing up financially secure vs. not, and what it tends to do to your capacity to take financial risks specifically. If you don't even hardly know what it feels like to have no safety net at all, if you know you do have a safety net in the form of family that will help you out if things get _really_ bad, at least to keep you off the streets.... it's easier to take risks "without anything to fall back on." If, on the other hand, you know exactly what it really looks like to be at the bottom with truly nothing to fall back on...
Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by nathanvanfleet on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @10:20AM (#10152487)
Sorry but that's just such a small part.

I have spoken to a friend who has rich parents, and the psychological effect is that they always know if something goes wrong they can just be supported by their rich parents when they get back on their feet.

Furthermore they know they can bum around until their parents die and get their retirement money in the form of inheritance. You might be surprised how ever-present that thought is to people like that.

But for people without that option, because their parents can't, they make the right decision and don't take a risk because there is nothing to fall back on.

Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by kelukelugames on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @12:23PM (#10153549)
>I have spoken to a friend

I wish people wouldn't speak this confidently with such little life experience.

Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by Retra on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @01:38PM (#10154243)
If you feel that kind of boiler-plate would provide better results, feel free to imagine it and extract the results for yourself.

Or provide details about those experiences you think are needed.

Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by bakhy on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @09:02AM (#10152004)
true. there was an interesting text posted here once, about how one of the worse things about poverty is that it kills the will to dream big and make plans. when you're scraping by, it's much harder, and any big plan can easily fall through due to bad luck (some unexpected expenses you cannot cover eat up your small savings, e.g., and ironically, since poverty is not healthy, unexpected expenses are more likely).
Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by vog on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @09:44AM (#10152241)
> ironically, since poverty is not healthy, unexpected expenses are more likely

Well, that's mostly an US issue, I guess. When you live in a country with even modest public healthcare, such as Germany, things are not that terrible.

Here, if you get ill, no matter how bad, you get the base treatment that you need. Of course you can (and should) pay on top of that for better treatment. But event without money, you don't have to fear to be denied important treatments. (With some unfortunate, but luckily very rare exceptions.)

Thinking of that, I wonder why we Germans are so conservative, despite living relatively secure. A large portion of our people could take a lot of risk without falling too deep. Probably this is because "falling deep" here means to have to rely on social welfare provision, of which people are afraid of. But this is not really falling deep, compared to living on the street in utter poverty.

Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by bakhy on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @10:03AM (#10152362)
coincidentally, i live and work in Germany ;) immigrated from Croatia 2 years ago. and i agree, no doubt about it, the system is really functional here and provides a good safety net (although, welfare involves a bit of humiliation everywhere, the money is never just handed out...). from my kinda outsider perspective, Germans seem obsessed with doing the "right" thing. the word "ordentlich" came to mind ;) the culture is a bit conformist, not too much, but noticeably. so, many people play it safe, avoid going too far out on a limb. but i'm still processing the whole experience, and occasional culture shocks, so i don't stand too firmly behind these impressions.
Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by ant6n on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @12:11PM (#10153418)
Maybe having everything trashed during the World Wars (plus other interesting times like hyper-inflation) instilled conservatism in the common psyche.
Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by kome on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @09:46AM (#10152256)
Where can I find the article you are talking about?
Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by bakhy on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @09:57AM (#10152326)
it was a while ago, but I think it was this one: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/21/linda-tirado-...

(hat tip to Algolia's HN search ;) )

Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by acdha on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @09:21AM (#10152087)
Even that varies based on your ability to find an alternative. If, say, you're a well-spoken geeky-looking white guy with a degree from a decent school, the worst-case scenario from a complete meltdown is something like “I took a job one cube over from Dilbert at <big corp> which has trouble keeping developers”.

The further you deviate from that (not fluent in the right language, from the wrong minority/gender, self-taught, etc.) the more reasonable it is to question how a failure will impact your ability to get jobs at your level or even stay in the field.

Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by awjr on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @07:57AM (#10151785)
I'm guessing "and are prepared to live in a car/cardboard box". Yes it's do-able but the reality is that a founder does need to be able to have the funds to sprint, fail, and sprint again. It's why people bootstrap.
Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by math on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @07:54AM (#10151775)
indeed. "Almost everything--all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure--these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked." - Steve Jobs
Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by Spooky23 on Tuesday September 01, 2015 @08:51AM (#10151953)
During good times sure. In tight job markets, that resume gap is a killer.
Re:Entrepreneurs don’t have a gene for risk – they come from... by dean on Thursday September 03, 2015 @09:37AM (#10164832)
Agreed. It always seemed to me that people with nothing to lose can take can take the biggest risks.