Re:How 'DevOps' is Killing the Developer (2014)
by hliyan on Monday August 31, 2015 @01:20AM
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I have to question the wisdom of bunching these two together. One is about freeing the developer as much as possible from peripheral duties so he can concentrate on his primary responsibility - design and development. The other, at least to me, is more about avoiding systems composed of modules that don't fit together properly, rather than getting more work done for less money.
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Re:How 'DevOps' is Killing the Developer (2014)
by krzyk on Monday August 31, 2015 @04:13AM
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Not sure about the DevOps, you are talking like if operations guy would start doing some dev stuff.
But our company goes the other way, they make Devs do Ops stuff and QA stuff (and bussiness analytic stuff also). I really hate this.
Re:How 'DevOps' is Killing the Developer (2014)
by hliyan on Monday August 31, 2015 @04:20AM
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Perhaps my comment wasn't clear. I'm against making developers perform operations and QA tasks too. It's the author putting devops and full-stack engineers in the same basket that I question.
That said, developer/unit testing is one aspect of QA you just can't offload to a separate team.
Re:How 'DevOps' is Killing the Developer (2014)
by lowmagnet on Monday August 31, 2015 @07:23AM
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Why hate that? The work is part of what is necessary to deliver software. It's like saying you want to be a general contractor on you own house but don't want to have architected plans, framers, or a final inspection.
Re:How 'DevOps' is Killing the Developer (2014)
by krzyk on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @03:53AM
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I don't want to be jack of all trades, I really don't have QA mindset and I don't like software testing as a black box, I prefer unit testing.
All of developers on my team hate when they have to do QA stuff.
It is like being hired to do plumbing, but being forced to do gardening :) It is all on the same property but completly different tasks and skillsets.