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Re:13,000 fall into homelessness every month in L.A. County by johan_larson on Thursday August 27, 2015 @05:38PM (#10132294)
Some people refuse even pointed attempts to help them. They'll say no to shelters; they'll say no to social workers; they'll even say no to the police. And the bar for involuntary confinement is high in some places.
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Re:13,000 fall into homelessness every month in L.A. County by PaulHoule on Thursday August 27, 2015 @06:01PM (#10132428)
A fairly common situation in the U.S. is that people with drug and alcohol problems usually need to get clean before they get housed and it is not at all easy to get clean if you are not housed.

In my immediate area social services are very good and anybody who is on the street who will comply with what DSS mandates can get off the street pretty quick, but many people won't do it for many reasons.

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Re:13,000 fall into homelessness every month in L.A. County by coldtea on Thursday August 27, 2015 @06:49PM (#10132654)
>A fairly common situation in the U.S. is that people with drug and alcohol problems usually need to get clean before they get housed and it is not at all easy to get clean if you are not housed.

Hurray for protestant ethics in 2015. As if a drug-using homeless person doesn't need shelter...

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Re:13,000 fall into homelessness every month in L.A. County by kansface on Thursday August 27, 2015 @07:33PM (#10132811)
They evidently don't in LA or SF (as opposed to Norway in the winter). Otherwise, we would necessarily see far lower rates of homelessness in those places.
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Re:13,000 fall into homelessness every month in L.A. County by coldtea on Friday August 28, 2015 @03:55AM (#10134181)
Yeah, because SF winter is warn and fuzzy.

Is the weather in NY "much more hospitable" than that of the Netherlands? Because it has as many homeless as in LA.

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Re:13,000 fall into homelessness every month in L.A. County by ipsin on Thursday August 27, 2015 @07:36PM (#10132820)
Utah's taken a different approach, and it seems to have worked pretty well, though I'm not sure how many urban cities want to (or can) follow that lead.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-housing-first-20150...

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Re:13,000 fall into homelessness every month in L.A. County by sliverstorm on Thursday August 27, 2015 @05:48PM (#10132347)
He might also have been thinking about the "winter" [0] part.

[0] http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/climate/The-Netherlan...

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