Why I want Swift to be your first language

Re:Why I want Swift to be your first language by mcphage on Thursday August 27, 2015 @05:01PM (#10132057)

Well then: Ruby integrates very nicely with Cocoa and UIKit via RubyMotion, so they didn't need to develop their own language.

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Re:Why I want Swift to be your first language by wvenable on Thursday August 27, 2015 @05:15PM (#10132144)

MacRuby (which RubyMotion uses on OS X) is a custom version of Ruby with some significant changes under the hood and a lot of compatibility shims:

And MacRuby itself is written using Objective-C.

Objective-C (and now Swift) is OS X's system language and they are not applicable as a system language for any other platform.

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Re:Why I want Swift to be your first language by mcphage on Thursday August 27, 2015 @07:54PM (#10132898)

You've moved the goalposts so far I'm not sure you're even in the same stadium anymore.

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Re:Why I want Swift to be your first language by wvenable on Thursday August 27, 2015 @11:11PM (#10133552)

I'm not sure that's fair since you brought up MacRuby which is completely irrelevant to how well Swift would work for non-Apple platforms.

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