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Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by washedup on Friday August 21, 2015 @05:03PM (#10100250)
There are also some refinery problems in Indiana which is keeping gasoline at a premium when compared to oil.
Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by dwharrison on Friday August 21, 2015 @05:10PM (#10100285)
That primarily impacts Canadian heavy crude exports. The BP Whiting refinery was the primary consumer of Canadian crude.

Few other refineries (other than some on the Gulf coast) are configured to handle the product.

That's why Canadian crude prices are collapsing...and why the price of gasoline in the upper midwest is going up.

The only other option for Canadian crude to pipeline export to the Texas gulf coast. The problem is pipeline capacity (that's why some much Canadian oil goes out by train), but even more critically, the pipelines typically offload at the giant Cushing OK storage center...and Cushing is right at 100% storage capacity. (you can't just pump crude straight into a refinery...there a timing mis-match that has to be dealt with via storage).

The Canadians are about to really get squeezed.

Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by redthrowaway on Friday August 21, 2015 @08:00PM (#10100971)
We're already getting squeezed. We officially entered into a recession a while back. Housing prices in Alberta have collapsed. Every other province is about to get squeezed as all the oil patch workers head home and look for jobs. Buying things online sucks, and travelling is a terrible idea. Budget's shot to hell in the middle of an election, which is good if it helps force Harper out.
Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by mistermann on Friday August 21, 2015 @08:35PM (#10101055)
> Housing prices in Alberta have collapsed.

Sales have collapsed perhaps, but not prices. We shall see if $30 oil can take the wind out of Canadian real estate, I'll believe it when I see it, the confidence level of Canadians when it comes to housing is extremely high.

Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by redthrowaway on Friday August 21, 2015 @10:26PM (#10101248)
You're right. Sales are down 30% in Calgary, but prices have only dropped 1.6%. [1] Still, that's compared to a 9% rise for the rest of Canada. [2] I'd still expect them to drop significantly more as laid-off oil workers burn through their savings and find themselves unable to pay their mortgage.

[1] http://www.creb.com/Seller_Resources/Housing_Statistics/ [2] http://public.tableau.com/shared/S48Y522MR?:display_count=no

Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by mistermann on Saturday August 22, 2015 @12:57AM (#10101557)
Actually, not going up 10% a year in Canada pretty much could be considered a collapse!

> I'd still expect them to drop significantly more as laid-off oil workers burn through their savings and find themselves unable to pay their mortgage.

One would think so, but real estate seems to be able to often defy both logic and mathematics.

Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by brock_r on Friday August 21, 2015 @05:30PM (#10100384)
The Chicago gas prices jumped up 50 cents the day after this hit the news.
Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by ProAm on Friday August 21, 2015 @05:08PM (#10100279)
I'm skeptical this is a true refinery issue/problem.
Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by toomuchtodo on Friday August 21, 2015 @05:06PM (#10100263)
Gas prices are about 50 cents more per gallon in Chicago than the rest of the US right now due to this.
Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by washedup on Friday August 21, 2015 @05:09PM (#10100280)
Do you think it's bleeding into other regional markets at all?
Re:Oil Falls Below $40 for First Time Since 2009 as Glut Grows by toomuchtodo on Friday August 21, 2015 @05:09PM (#10100282)