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Re:Work Hard, Live Well by pjmlp on Thursday August 20, 2015 @07:26AM (#10091129)
80 hours?!

Oh man, I am really glad to live in Europe.

Re:Work Hard, Live Well by SmellyGeekBoy on Thursday August 20, 2015 @07:59AM (#10091260)
How does that help? Pretty sure the working time regulations - as with most employment laws designed to protect normal employees from exploitation such as minimum wage - don't apply to a business owner working on their own business. That's certainly my experience here in the UK anyway.
Re:Work Hard, Live Well by pjmlp on Thursday August 20, 2015 @09:08AM (#10091560)
I don't know exactly how it works, but I am pretty sure work regulations in Germany also apply to business owners.

Specially insurances will not be covering certain work related diseases with that type of workload.

It has been a continuous discussion in the press in the last years, to the point some companies started enforcing a "go home" policy.

For example, sorry in German,

http://www.spiegel.de/karriere/berufsleben/erreichbar-nach-d...

Re:Work Hard, Live Well by roel_v on Thursday August 20, 2015 @08:49AM (#10091474)
I don't understand this sort of reaction. In Europe, to be successful, you have to work hard and long, too. Please tell me what your definition of 'success' is if you go home after 35 or 40 hours.
Re:Work Hard, Live Well by pjmlp on Thursday August 20, 2015 @09:04AM (#10091540)
But never > 80 hours, 60 maybe.

In Germany there are laws that limit how many hours one is allowed to do continuously each month.

Re:Work Hard, Live Well by roel_v on Thursday August 20, 2015 @05:06PM (#10094664)
Yeah, and there are laws against jaywalking too, what's your point? Half my office did 60+ hour weeks when I worked in Germany. That was the culture, didn't like it? Fine, go somewhere else, but the pay, the kind of work and the career prospects will be worse for it.
Re:Work Hard, Live Well by pjmlp on Friday August 21, 2015 @12:42AM (#10095989)
There is a better way than just going elsewhere.

Report the working conditions to Arbeitsamt.

Knowing the law is quite valuable and abuse only works when everyone keeps quiet.

Re:Work Hard, Live Well by roel_v on Friday August 21, 2015 @10:50AM (#10097848)
8| not sure if I'm just being trolled here... There is no way to have a 'career' (as opposed to a 'job', of course) without working more than 40 hours a week. (not saying 80 hours for 15 years either, but certainly more than 40). Of course one can be that petty guy who goes around citing Henry Ford and 'work life balance' and that whole spiel... but guess what, those people will never advance to anywhere. Professionals know that.
Re:Work Hard, Live Well by pjmlp on Saturday August 22, 2015 @05:37AM (#10102060)
My "career" is the prof one can have a career without being a slave of capitalism.

It helps when companies play by the rules with the Works Council and the respective unions.

And yes, I am one of those guys that would disclose bad working conditions to the Arbeitsamt.