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Re:Kicked out of the US: 33 hours of hell by pandaman on Monday August 10, 2015 @10:26AM (#10034781)
Can you give an example of a country where the laws are hard to break unintentionally or otherwise? I know only one, Somalia, because there are no laws. So I don't think I'd like you "fixing" this.

As for this case I am pretty sure their intent was to break the law, they just did not expect the consequences. They did try to get J-1 so they knew they need a visa for their visit and a waiver is not enough. They went without a visa anyways, probably hoping to talk their way through the immigration, feigning ignorance.

Re:Kicked out of the US: 33 hours of hell by coldtea on Monday August 10, 2015 @11:29AM (#10035211)
>Can you give an example of a country where the laws are hard to break unintentionally or otherwise?

Any country without a jumbled mess of a legal system?

www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704471504574438900830760842

Re:Kicked out of the US: 33 hours of hell by tajen on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @05:34PM (#10050782)
Australia: laws are hard to break because their IT is efficient. And they're awesome characters.

I reckon you have a point: So many people come to US with the intent of lying to the border agent, getting a tourist visa and working. Border law isn't shoplifting or traffic law.

Re:Kicked out of the US: 33 hours of hell by pandaman on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @09:53PM (#10051902)
So, if, for example, I drive drunk in Australia (easy to do) I am not breaking any laws? Or don't pay taxes? I find this hard to believe. No matter how efficient the IT some laws are easy to break. You probably meant just the immigration laws, which was not what I asked.