Re:Demonsaw – Secure sharing platform
by loren_kuhn on Monday August 10, 2015 @05:51AM
(#10033588)
It's closed source (i'm not asking for FOSS, just being able to compile myself) and there is a business behind it.
It talks about protecting my privacy. Tell me how I should believe that.
Re:Demonsaw – Secure sharing platform
by da_n on Monday August 10, 2015 @08:32AM
(#10034094)
Bittorrent Sync has the same problem, closed-sourced and only the businesses claims as to its security and 'truly private' sharing technology. Such a shame as I was really excited about Demonsaw, thought it was 'the one'.
Re:Demonsaw – Secure sharing platform
by JD557 on Monday August 10, 2015 @06:14AM
(#10033648)
According to the FAQ:
>Is demonsaw going to be Open Source?
>This was the question that I was most asked at Defcon. Demonsaw's foundation is built off of DemonCrypt, which is open-source and available for free on GitHub (MIT License, also developed by me). Demonsaw itself builds upon DemonCrypt's functionality and creates a graphical interface for users.
Re:Demonsaw – Secure sharing platform
by mike-cardwell on Monday August 10, 2015 @05:58AM
(#10033604)
Yeah. It claims to be "secure", but then gives us no way of verifying that for ourselves. I bet they "take the privacy of our data seriously" too. Pass.
Re:Demonsaw – Secure sharing platform
by defcon_dandy on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:14PM
(#10036602)
The software is free and based on your comment your looking for someone to trust. All communication and crypto is based on trust. If your waiting for someone else to make something for you... you are by default trusting them to do the security for you.
> The shootout with the police was highly exaggerated and in fact no one was even hit by a bullet, let alone harmed by one. The Police knew me and I don’t believe their hearts were truly in the shootout, as it is not included in the official report. When I ran out of ammunition, I surrendered quietly and the officers and my self had a cigarette together and joked about my bad aim.
Re:Demonsaw – Secure sharing platform
by jacobevelyn on Monday August 10, 2015 @07:56AM
(#10033953)
I would've been much more inclined to take this seriously had the testimonials not all been from John McAfee. After all he's been in the news for in the past few years, I'd treat a promotion by him as more harmful than helpful.
Re:Demonsaw – Secure sharing platform
by demonsaw on Monday August 10, 2015 @06:07PM
(#10037750)
Eijah here. Just finished up defcon and traveling all day today. Be glad to do an AMA tomorrow to answer all your questions. Will upload the MIT open source Demoncrypt code to git tomorrow (sorry didn't sleep much this weekend). In the meantime you can contact me directly @demon_saw or eijah at demonsaw dot com.
Re:Demonsaw – Secure sharing platform
by leke on Monday August 10, 2015 @04:54PM
(#10037231)
Ubuntu 14.04
noel@Aspire:~/Downloads/demonsaw_linux64$ ./demonsaw
./demonsaw: error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-sync.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Re:Demonsaw – Secure sharing platform
by gammafactor on Monday August 10, 2015 @09:24AM
(#10034376)
What problem does this solve exactly?
(As others have mentioned), it's closed source, so who is going to trust it with personal data? I'd much rather trust bittorrent sync than this but this point is really irrelevant. This isn't mom and pop software.
On the other hand, those who would like to use it seriously (pirates, hackers, those who value privacy) will laugh at it,
not only because it's closed source and thus all claims the author makes are unverifiable, but also because the architecture is crap.
So, summarizing, is there anything of substance besides hype and famewhoring here? I think not.
Re:Demonsaw – Secure sharing platform
by avera on Monday August 10, 2015 @09:37AM
(#10034449)
Time is your friend. Just wait and watch. It's ticking, one second by one... but in a friendly way it does it's "ticking job" or... maybe better "tickling job" ? You choose, what fits best for your case.
btw, seems that the open core CPP project is available through site's Download section... under title with big letters named "Crypto for Hackers: The Workshop"
>Is demonsaw going to be Open Source?
>This was the question that I was most asked at Defcon. Demonsaw's foundation is built off of DemonCrypt, which is open-source and available for free on GitHub (MIT License, also developed by me). Demonsaw itself builds upon DemonCrypt's functionality and creates a graphical interface for users.
I can't find that repository though (this is the closest thing I could find: https://github.com/eijah/demonsaw).
So, that's another black mark... :(
> The shootout with the police was highly exaggerated and in fact no one was even hit by a bullet, let alone harmed by one. The Police knew me and I don’t believe their hearts were truly in the shootout, as it is not included in the official report. When I ran out of ammunition, I surrendered quietly and the officers and my self had a cigarette together and joked about my bad aim.
This is not user friendly software. It's geek friendly certainly, but not user friendly.
There was even a workshop to build your own.
https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-23/dc-23-workshops-schedu...
Most of the posters were obviously not at Defcon based on the comments and general ignorance.
noel@Aspire:~/Downloads/demonsaw_linux64$ ./demonsaw ./demonsaw: error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-sync.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
I wonder if the servers you connect to are required to log the traffic though?
(As others have mentioned), it's closed source, so who is going to trust it with personal data? I'd much rather trust bittorrent sync than this but this point is really irrelevant. This isn't mom and pop software.
On the other hand, those who would like to use it seriously (pirates, hackers, those who value privacy) will laugh at it, not only because it's closed source and thus all claims the author makes are unverifiable, but also because the architecture is crap.
So, summarizing, is there anything of substance besides hype and famewhoring here? I think not.
btw, seems that the open core CPP project is available through site's Download section... under title with big letters named "Crypto for Hackers: The Workshop"
as is denoted here: https://github.com/eijah/demonsaw/issues/2