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The maintainers can be compromised though. Is every single version of every single "vetted" package / maintainer also vetted?

I would still pick Java any day over the vast majority of languages. Gigantic ecosystem, gigantic community, gigantic knowledge base, solid IDEs, and the list goes on.

There isn't much of a culture around code quality in ML / AI / DS.

Well, a lot of those requirements are highly bespoke to your task and to your team.

My C# pipelines and C# apps are far easier to package and deploy than my Python apps for example. And, as you said, the pipeline is normally a one time cost.

What is your problem? 8 years is a disappointingly long time.

Serious question, why not Typescript? Are you not aware of it or do you have other reasons?

He is the one trying to test his stuff though, hence the question.

You're at the whim of the crap dependencies that you choose to use in your projects. If they don't document their code or if they force you to upgrade your tooling, it's not the fault of the TS team.

I try avoid 3rd party libraries very aggressively and I don't have half the issues people talk about in front end dev. My normal set up is angular and go.

The mypy experience is awful with numpy and pandas.

Python is nowhere near as "batteries included" as .NET for example.

I'm typing my code very often for static analysers.

What a legend. Thank you very much.

Can you please explain why not use them or what's the use case?

"Just use X" is not what I want to hear. Python packaging is a pile of garbage. I don't want to have to use a 3rd party tool! Just fix the damn core tools and make them consistent and intuitive!

Sorry, rant over.

What a ridiculous argument.

Instead of being insecure about criticisms to the Python ecosystem and calling my disappointment "hatred" I'd rather we focused on solutions.

Just because this mess happens in some other languages doesn't mean it's the right thing. Having a very fragmented community is not a good thing for a beginner. Also, npm is far more of a de facto choice than poetry, which is still better than the state python finds itself in.

Sigh I don't see why I need to use a 3rd party tool for what should be a very straightforward process in Python out of the box. In fact, I think these days it actually is straightforward, of course once you work out what you need to do...

Python is a mess.

Yep. Glad to see Python evolve, become more expressive and permit stronger static analysis.

What I love about C#:

- very active language development, modern functional features - very strong standard library. I used to take this for granted, but over the years I realised many other languages and are nowhere near where .NET is - exceptional IDE. VS has no competition

Same can be said about people commenting about how shit Vista was and assuming W10 must be the same. Clueless morons on both sides. Who cares about your crappy distro or your W10 Pro?

> Maybe you think the burger tastes different, or has a strange texture, but I certainly won't try to argue that because it doesn't matter.

Maybe to you it doesn't matter.

There is no evidence of widespread reinfection in Manaus.

> Thiiis really hasn't been my experience with the Python community. Every place I've worked on a Python codebase has done it a different way, and none of them have agreed on what is "pythonic".

Exactly my experience from day one. It's a laughable statement that the Python community keeps repeated with almost no basis in reality.

Fanboi discussions and reactions are the norm in the Python community. But this what you get when maybe more than half of your community is made of non-devs, who never touched any other language and never will.

IV have a lot of integrity actually.

How many of those services are cross-border though? Does "services" include real estate agents and IT contractors?

Yes.

Most juniors have a much narrower focus in their day to day activities. Their responsibilities tend to be far more focused on churning code and dealing with cool or bad tech choices, whereas the more senior you get, the wider or high level your job can become.

If you want to assign countries to companies or divisions of companies, I think Deepmimd is (still) more representative of British ingenuity.

I can see the crossover with Go, but Ruby?! What is the reason behind its attractiveness in the Ruby community?

I get that some developers believe that Rust is "better than Ruby" and that Rust has far more momentum, but their use cases are very different.