zubinmehta

nop, the links blue color looked like craiglist styled links.

This is just awesome. Right way of getting streams into your head. In just a day, I could complete the first two tutorials and I feel more comfortable.

Thanks.

that rhymed!

I agree. We skimmed through and figured it's very new, so didn't explore more.

Firstly, this isn't a shoot-out. I apologize if the title feels that way. It's our account on why we chose one(language) over the other looking into various real-life variables, not just web frameworks.

>> You clearly can't afford to explore all reasonable options. How else would we know which one to go with and save extra bytes?

Lift/Play are surely not outdated. I am just stating objective facts that led us to one over the other.

Read both the articles we have posted to get a flavour :)

We were merely in search of a good web framework. Java has battletested libraries but so does python and a lot of other general programming languages. It still isn't answering our core question. A decision on what web framework to use has much more to do with the framework itself(its philosophy and community) than with the language it is built in.

Coming to django, I would argue that it is the best documented project on this planet! Django has a huge number of plugins, quickens the process, and is based on some amazing philosophies(DRY) and you happen to admire what a big deal it is when you go deep into design of your web app.

Also, I can even argue that I can get a programmer who doesn't know python to start on Django in 4 hours. Now, I wouldn't bank on this point as it is a language ecosystem point, but it is a true fact, happened to me some years ago.

Lift, is cherry picking features from django/rails, which is actually a good thing, but I see it being a lot less progressive as compared to Django even at the scale at which Django is right now.

Play, I haven't used, so cannot argue much on that. I think Play2 is less than a year old? Surely, I cannot let my startup developers write more bytes than necessary. Why code something which is already done and that is precisely what happened with us when we started working with Django. Well tested libraries can be pip installed.

Anything vim, I follow derekwyatt - https://github.com/derekwyatt/vim-scala

+django

"Xinu Is Not Unix" - also gives more information than "The Xinu Page". Hence, I used it. If you don't feel OS-ey then you may skip the link!

The cool part is - UNIX not is XINU

Not working for me, either. But I see people upvoting the link, indicating they are able to access it.