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Is there anything in particular you disagree with in Null's rationale for permitting this?

Here's his argument:

> There's no law against posting numbers.

> There are some instances where humiliation fetishes intentionally hold up government id (including ssn cards) while wearing diapers.

> https://kiwifarms.st/threads/sean-miller-sean-russel-miller-...

> If he did the same with credit cards, I'd also probably permit that. I don't know how I'm expected to say "oh you're posting ridiculous stuff online but because a plastic card with numbers on it is featured, I won't permit that to be published". It just doesn't make sense logically. There are plenty of public records that feature sensitive information, mostly court documents.

> The law is specifically regarding facilitating financial crimes. If someone posts FIN and then encourages people to use that maliciously, that would be deleted. If someone posts that they've already used it maliciously, I think we'd just publicly ban that user and retain the post. It makes less sense to delete evidence of a crime than to retain it so that the proper legal mechanisms can react to it.

> So in short, numbers are the same as names and addresses and photos. If you're so sloppy with your personal information that you're leaking FIN, I can't bottle that for you even if I tried. I can only discourage people from doing anything illegal and ban people who do.

The reason why Liz Fong-Jones is waging a war against Kiwi Farms is because they've documented, from publicly available information, various unsavory things he's done or alluded to doing [1]. For example, his confession of sexual assault - or "consent accident", as he put it.

[1] https://kiwifarms.st/threads/liz-fong-jones-elliot-william-f...

If anyone needs some backstory - the focal point was this thread on Kiwi Farms about a Twitch streamer named Keffals:

http://kiwifarms.net/threads/keffals-clara-sorrenti-lucas-jo...

(via Tor: http://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyx...)

Since then there has been a concerted, sustained effort to knock the site offline by trans activists who don't like having their activities exposed, documented and archived for all to see.

It's working, for two reasons. Firstly, because many of these people have worked in big tech for a long time and have connections, and there is a lot of sympathy to the overall cause by other people who work in tech and have decision-making power about who can connect to what.

Secondly, because they are making personal threats and DDoS attacks, and no-one with any power is stopping them, or even attempting to hold them to account.

Current status regarding Kiwi Farms' disconnection by various Tier 1 ISPs:

http://kiwifarms.net/threads/total-retard-war.141231/

(via Tor: http://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyx...)

The main instigator behind all this, other than Keffals, is another transgender named Liz Fong-Jones:

http://kiwifarms.net/threads/liz-fong-jones-elliot-william-f...

(via Tor: http://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyx...)

Null, the operator of Kiwi Farms, has an interesting thread on the censorship resistance of various different service providers they have used:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/nulls-tier-list-for-internet-s...

(via Tor: https://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiy...)

I fully expect this comment to get flagged and killed; they don't like it being talked about here either.