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> I think we're done here.

Yes, sir.

But also ...why though?

All it takes is a few dudes with an iron cross tattoo to fudge the numbers here or there. It's really not uncommon, again, if you look at what happens often, not what happens loudest.

> I mean, if you start building an auto-fixer pipeline for an auto-linted error... then is that error actually valid in the first place? Probably not.

Yeah that does sound like a waste of time for a relatively small project.

But I actually think this makes perfect sense once you factor in how massive the effective codebase of Debian is. It's also a much different beast; there are benefits and costs to moving more slowly and methodically. Making seemingly small architectural changes (like the switch from 'extra' to 'optional') is awkward just because of the structure of the project.

Anything to take tedium off the plates of devs who are committing upstream in preparation for the next release has to be a good thing, right?

I hope this rings as genuine... I would very much like to hear back from you!

I agree that it feels really confused but if I can get it running one day with the ability to save my sessions, I would gladly flip between this and X+i3 for my daily driver.

What I see offered here is a way of mapping a huge, non-software project more loosely than a strict classification-based directory/file structure. Specifically I've been slowly fleshing out my own fantasy world with lore and history. I tried the live demo and I can totally see this meshing really well with the part of my brain that likes fiction because it can be a little messy.

I also think the friction of learning a new UI would be a benefit here in reducing the amount of "laptop fatigue" which keeps me from writing less technical stuff after wrestling with a bug all day.

I'm actually just now gearing up to homelab a Matrix set up! I'll keep this in mind.

Also did you happen to look up Skylor Jernigan? Had you heard of him?

Oh absolutely. We aren't going to fix the external (relative to unions) conditions of labor by creating a more perfect union.

Thanks for the explanation! XMPP may not be the flavor du jour but it's got the old gears turning in new ways...

That makes sense, thank you!

My preferred solution to this kind of problem would be more akin to worker ownership or at very least worker involvement in steering decisions (board positions, etc). But I also despise forced arbitration. Absolutely abhorrent.

As far as I understand they are "partisan" not by design but as a result of representing their interests (which, in my opinion, should always represent the aggregate of the workers the union represents -- which is sadly not so)

Please do correct me if I'm wrong! That's my favorite way to learn. I've grown a lot from being the least-informed gal in the room.

Has anybody here ever used something like XMPP as a sidechannel? Sounds interesting and I kind of want to try setting up something really silly just for fun.

As discussed above, police unions are a different beast.

And an explicitly partisan union would be a shot in the foot of the organizers. That's not exactly how you build solidarity.

> That would forbid criticism of any violent decentralized movement.

Establish a pattern of behavior?

> There's no widespread looting and assault from the center or the right here.

I know it's low hanging fruit but do you find this compelling?: https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-3...

> and have handbooks re: playing to the invisible audience, goading people into fight responses, etc.

Who is antifa??? More FUD. This is, in my opinion, a very lazy and poorly researched argument against the anti-fascist movement. Especially in a country where crime reporting is run through an institution with ties to white supremacy and roots in crushing strikes and capturing escaped slaves. Show me the data. Show me the pattern of left wing terror.

> And that you're doing that it now.

Not even touching this..

Oh also, are you sure you've been seeing literature from the "real" "antifa"? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fake-antifa-acount-whit...

Yeah I lurked for way too long. Spent like half of yesterday rate limited, which is understandable. :)

I actually have a few mutuals who have been on the ground in Portland and I'm in the southeast.

I had seen this stuff when it first happened but it's just hard to pay much attention with other deadly force being deployed IMO. If you google Skylor Jernigan, you get nothing but local articles. There's a strong false equivalency being deployed there.

e: almost forgot where I am! I rarely get to make this point but here we go: nitpicking out individualized acts of violence to discredit a large, decentralized movement is the exact same thing as FUD, IMO. It's a tactic for maintaining unequal power dynamics.

Please link me!

I've been following the pipe bomb situation pretty closely so I've missed a lot of that stuff probably.

If you're developing in the right sector, MacOS has a market that's selected to be lucrative.

I don't think that's a particularly good thing, but it does explain how <10% market share can make such a big splash. Especially for more casual projects, IMO.

I wanted to disagree with you, but honestly my gut also says the MAGA hat person is at risk.

Here's the thing though -- where's the data? Has that actually happened in any significance? Especially compared to right wing violence.

Agreed that you shouldn't be using Popper as a cornerstone, but I really think it's a great tool for getting folks to step outside a limited perspective. A foot in the door when trying to introduce the difference between hate speech and retaliatory frustration.

I think it's also worth mentioning that you are very correct in a need for subtlety -- "kill all women" isn't something you're going to see very often any more. Rather, we get some nonsense about the moral arc of the universe and another endless discussion while people continue to be harmed. I knew (happily past tense) a couple guys who just couldn't kick their absolute vitriol for seeing women thrive while they were struggling. It's super nasty and, in my experience, a way more dangerous thing than someone going off about killing women verbatim.

Thanks for pointing out the blind spot though! I've found that way of thinking about morality to be really positive and forgiving -- to view something as a correctable omission rather than a character flaw.

I think much like cybersecurity there is no "solution". Moderation is a posture, not a result. You have to just stay on top of it or everything will tend towards 4chan given the chance.

Nearly every woman I know who uses reddit doesn't announce their gender. Plenty of my chosen family won't touch it with a fifty-foot pole simply because they're way too likely to run into something that genuinely makes the rest of their day harder.

And, anecdotal as it may be, I think it's interesting to mention these aren't softies either... the thing they all share in common is that they work too long and too hard making ends meet to willfully spend time browsing a site that can go from fun to making them feel very unsafe in the blink of an eye. Sure you can "just get over it" when you read something nasty online. But if you've lived your life in relative fear, it takes a ton of energy to do so.

Back to coded language to express frustration we go...

I really agree with this. An American Indian friend of mine once said, "It's not like we want another Trail of Tears." Folks who have been beat down know people don't deserve that just for being a certain way.

Now if you're advocating a worldview that carries implicit, targeted violence (looking at you, Neo-Nazis) I think it's a different story. At that point, it becomes a question of what is possible and practical to reduce the overall amount of violence.. even if it means punching someone who wants you dead or subjugated.

Wouldn't the difference there be between venting resulting in hurt feelings rather than targeted violence?

Reports of genuine, targeted violence against reactionaries are almost non-existent while just a few days ago three trans women were nearly killed while waiting for a cab. If banning r/dropthet (a transphobic subreddit) reduces the amount of eyeballs absorbing phobic talking points that has to be a good thing, no?

I always find these sorts of discussions sorely lacking an understanding of The Tolerance Paradox. Hopefully more folks will begin to see the implicit violence present in minority targeted hate speech. It really does lead to loss of life all too often.