Exactly, that's why I support Free Software and the four essential freedoms [0]. Not "open source".
The Open Source people are the entitled ones, always thinking about profit and taking advantage of the work of others while giving nothing back. Talk about entitlement.
[0] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#four-freedoms
You also say that I'm entitled, ok let's see who's the one crying on X about the Linux Foundation funding other projects than his own:
https://x.com/awesomekling/status/1877438066190622874#m
Look, it's fine if you like him and his projects, I don't because I know it's all about the money, he should have stayed working at Apple.
And again: I'm not going to spend my time nor resources to support someone who already displayed signs of betrayal to his community.
The SerenityOS community was fractured, all because of his selfish ambitions.
He did, how much do you want to bet that if he were to do it all over again he would go straight to the browser work and skip the OS project?
That's why he doesn't even talk about it anymore, he even removed it as a target in Ladybird.
It's clear that he got burned by his own decisions.
I don't care what you think about me or not, I don't hate SerenityOS and I wish that project well, but I think they should reconsider their stance on third party libraries.
Am I not allowed to say anything anymore? I know what SerenityOS is and what it's trying to do, I just think it's unreasonable and a waste of effort.
Andreas himself changed his mind about reusing third party libraries in Ladybird, SerenityOS should do the same.
Take a look at labwc, the look and feel is similar to Openbox and can be made to look retro-like.
Xfce will also come with Wayland support in the next version or so I hear.
I don't get the Sway comment about being barebones, it's a tiling compositor, it does what it should do.
So? I achieved things of my own as well, some of which I'm very proud of, but I don't go online belittling others acting as "holier than thou" to bring my point across, which you apparently do, I doubt you are as important as you claim to be.
No, it would be a Wayland compositor, which could be made to run on Linux or the BSDs.
> This is a great environment to rapidly prototype new UI features, like it was the first time I saw an OS able to open UI folders and Applications from `ls` output in a terminal.
There's nothing special about this, Enlightenment did it on Linux many years before Serenity even existed.
https://www.enlightenment.org/about-terminology.md
> but it's only targeted for the hobbyist developers building the OS to use and has no plans on becoming an OS for mainstream adoption.
It's such a shame because it could be a great Wayland compositor, and the features you mention could be made to work as a desktop environment.
Why spend years reinventing the wheel when others already did the hard work that they won't be able to replicate in the first place?
It's their time, sure. And they can do wherever they want but it's still wasted effort, whether people admit it or not.
Not even the BSDs are able to compete with Linux on driver's support, what makes people think SerenityOS could?
I also hardly doubt the SerenityOS people don't have any expectations to get at least some adoption, they're wasting their time with their current strategy.
These projects misdirect talented individuals from impactful work.
What's the point, if they ultimately collapse due to the unsustainable nature of solely pleasure-driven endeavors?
This wasted effort is particularly frustrating considering that vital open-source projects, crucial for real-world applications, are struggling to survive due to critical lack of contributors.
It's infuriating to witness this neglect.
I hate to say it but if they're not thinking in practical terms, they're dead in the long run.
I find that very difficult to believe, how exactly is it more usable? Serenity would benefit a lot sitting on top of a Linux kernel in my opinion.
What does that mean?
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Free software calls for giving people the freedom to cooperate. That means a group of people are free to cooperate when they all want to cooperate. But that is...
Please stop spreading FUD, this is simply not true.
I would argue that most problems that people experience with btrfs today are because of hardware issues, btrfs is simply detecting those errors thanks to checksumming.
Yes, it is slower than other filesystems and RAID 5/6 is still unstable but blaming btrfs for everything is simply wrong.
Andreas has demonstrated time and time again that he can't keep his word. He says one thing and does things differently.
That wouldn't be too much of a problem if he didn't accuse others of what he is guilty of, toxicity.
He is also known for bashing other projects to promote his own. I would go help Servo instead. Ladybird isn't going anywhere, same as SerenityOS.
Indeed, that's a huge advantage of Linux, the fact that we all run the same Linux kernel and benefit from improvements.
Linus himself mentions about this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA&t=2330
There's a nice recent benchmark here (Bcachefs vs. Btrfs vs. EXT4 vs. F2FS vs. XFS): https://www.phoronix.com/review/linux-611-filesystems
No APFS or ZFS though, but still interesting nonetheless.
This is a 91% increase since June 2024 and if the trend continues we should break 5% soon, hopefully breaking off the single digit mark in the not so distant future.
To some degree it does, I'd say it depends a lot in your use case.
Linux is still going to feel snappy because of other optimizations though, even with a slow disk and filesystem.
The way Linux manages RAM is also important as everything is cached by default.