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> My kids go to a ordinary public school. They are very bright, cautious, and thoughtful, and generally pretty happy and upbeat. There is a strong correlation between academic intelligence and mental illness. Being depressed to the point of being suicidal and having a sunny disposition are not mutually exclusive at all.

If my parents said this to me the moment I realized what I was on and that I had to deal with coming off of it late in life I would be beside myself.

I'd probably also look up the doctor that encouraged my parents to put their seven year old on SSRIs so I could warn friends.

These huge lists of side effects are haunting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_i... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoxetine

If my parents were like "uh well I had virtually no symptoms" I'd lose my mind!

Life sucks, I'm depressed all the time, kids are depressed all the time. There's material everywhere explaining a decline in general mental health. I'm happy and lucky that when my parents (or the one that was paying attention, who was certainly also depressed) noticed I was depressed or sad during a few events, some long lasting, they asked me about it, listened to me, and did their best to give me advice instead of giving up when I was seven and giving me drugs.

Remember when replying, this post has all been about myself, a victim of depression.

> This is horrifying.

I agree with this.

I've learned a lot through life, one thing I've learned is about detrimental long term physical and even social effects of antidepressants, and other medications like adderal. Both I used to take.

At this point in my life, if I realized my parents gave me an antidepressant prescription when I was SEVEN years old because I said something stupid WHEN I WAS SEVEN I'd be very disturbed and disappointed in them, I'd definitely give both of them a solid scolding.

Before you respond to this remember I'm talking about me. Not your kid or your friends kid or your cousins kid.

EDIT: Quick edit to add when I was a kid I was a total outcast, I was weird, anxious, and definitely often depressed. A lot of kids in my religious schooling systems were.

Or "we know this isn't practical but we need to get this shit on our resumes while it's still relevant"

You're taking about this company:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/purview/purview-compliance

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/purview/communication-comp...

They train large language models at scale with user data.

For something irrelevant it fits so perfectly wouldn't you say?

Not a risk I'm personally willing to take ;)

In my case, wandering male Sydney Funnel-web Spiders make me want to avoid Australia

It'd be interesting to stress test that thing with a Solfeggietto or some equivalent.

a take I have on 1984, outside of the infamy, is that it's an epic romantic novel. Winston and Julia vs. the world.

Off topic but I just randomly, on one of the rare occasions I do, skateboarded with a friend and was immediately hit with a skateboarding ad while reading this article afterwards.

And I certainly appreciate the irony of this happening while I'm reading an article about Orwell rofl

I've seen this enforced by the number of persons in your party (say, 6 minimum). If you come in with a ton of people at an establishment that expects tips, make a ton of noise, traumatize the front staff, completely destroy the place, then leave and tip 5%? I like the idea of an establishment financially protecting their employees that way.

SPI firewall looks interesting, appreciate the education.

You're saying there's less incentive for widespread automated attacks on personal devices?

edit: Changing the subject to insulting me is a bad way to conclude. You're creating an illusion the debate is concluded in your favor instead of responding to points. I don't think any of my points had a sound argument against them.

> now they're just hosing your consumer router

There is a dramatic difference in effort between ( owning a device ) and ( owning a router, configuring network access to the device, then owning the device ).

Also psychologically: If I was a rock hard piece of shit and I knew I was at the doorstep of a personal device, I would treat it much more aggressively than a router. I suppose maybe that's just me and not the kids and enemy states.

This looks like the usual ipv6 kool aid batshit. I don't want a bunch of kids and enemy states poking at and port scanning my laptop directly, regardless of whether or not I have a firewall enabled.

And, no, I don't think it's practical for everyone and their grandma to "just set up a bastion"

You could almost argue these results are directly human generated.

edit: And in that case, who is the arbiter of truth?

The randomly going off thing can be made better by more expensive detectors. Sure, you need an electrician.

This looks like lamenting the inconveniences of smoke detectors. My point is that hardwired smoke detectors function more consistently than battery powered ones.

I'll submit and admit my experience is probably different than other regions in my country. However, from my professional experience in my region, the richest communities inspect for hardwired smoke detectors and the poorer communities don't care so much.

It's because in less fortunate communities code enforcement isn't as strict so smoke detectors do not have to be hardwired.

edit: removed abrasive language

edit: Love the immediate downvoting. Please present your evidence that hardwired smoke detectors has nothing to do with this.

This change is benefitting someone within the company, exactly one person, at the expense of millions of Users with no voice.

Shouldn't a "free" product even approaching the popularity at this scale involve democracy?

Lets leave it up to a vote. Your stupid change vs. the opinion of the User.

> If it does do that then yeah, there should be backlash.

It's a threat. Disrespectful to users.

Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't! If it doesn't maybe it will someday! When just the right person gets hired into exec.

yeah youre missing that this suggests all usage is suddenly being used for training. the incentive for the company is avoiding suffering the opportunity cost of not using user data for training. the aggression of this post is weirder than the aggression of the opposition.

edit: several rephrases of the middle sentence

> What's the source of this rot?

Powerful people in the company are trying to get "Integrated AI into an existing product with overwhelming resulting engagement" onto their resume.

here:

https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB1047/id/2919384

and a helpful definition as you parse this:

(f) “Covered model” means an artificial intelligence model that meets either of the following criteria: (1) The artificial intelligence model was trained using a quantity of computing power greater than 10^26 integer or floating-point operations in 2024, or a model that could reasonably be expected to have similar performance on benchmarks commonly used to quantify the performance of state-of-the-art foundation models, as determined by industry best practices and relevant standard setting organizations. (2) The artificial intelligence model has capability below the relevant threshold on a specific benchmark but is of otherwise similar general capability.

fitting this fight club quote into context:

Now, should we [care about getting sued]? Take the number of [copilot users] in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of [a user getting sued], B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the [opportunity cost of missing out on user training data], we don't [care].

> Microsoft already declared they'll take care of any copyright lawsuits related to Copilot.

How very kind of them!

edit: it's almost like you, as a user, get a taste of having so much money youre legally untouchable!

oh so this is what google facebook elon musk microsoft does to collect/share user data then get slammed with affordable fines later. I surprised this quote hasnt come to mind at reading those article

> The researchers found that a pulse duration that minuscule doesn't result in any appreciable skin damage unless the laser is firing at that same spot at one shot per millisecond for a duration of 2,000 milliseconds

Haha so if this thing is misconfigured badly enough it can just melt you

according to all the opponents and team mates I had, everyone pretty good but me :)