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Yeah, I agree with you. I’d say they’re not high performers anymore. Best answer I’ve got is find a place where quality matters. If you’re at a body shop it’s not gonna be fun.

I do think some of this is just a hype wave and businesses will learn quality and trust matter. But maybe not - if wealth keeps becoming more concentrated at the top, it’s slop for the plebs.

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> No, I was not aware. Nothing comes close to the scale of 'coherent looking' code generation of today's tech.

Are you talking about “I’m overwhelmed by code review” or “we can now produce code at a scale no amount of humans can ever review”. Those are 2 very different things.

You review code because you’re responsible for it. This problem existed pre AI and nothing had changed wrt to being overwhelmed. The solution is still the same. To the latter, I think that’s more the software dark factory kind of thinking?

I find that interesting and maybe we’ll get there. But again, the code it takes to verify a system is drastically more complex than the system itself. I don’t know how you could build such a thing except in narrow use cases. Which I do think well see one day, though how narrow they are is the key part.

I think this gets to the heart of it. We’re gonna see a new class of devs & software emerge that only use AI and don’t read the code. The devs that understand code will still exist too, but there is certainly an appetite for going faster at the cost of quality.

I personally find the “move fast and break thing” ethos morally abhorrent, but that doesn’t make it go away.

If we could do this it would have been done already. Outsourced devs would be ubiquitous.

Leaky abstractions are a thing. You can just encapsulate your way out of everything.

You know we’ve had the ability to generate large amounts of code for a long time, right? You could have been drowning in reviews in 2018. Cheap devs are not new. There’s a reason this trend never caught on for any decent company.

Ideally, you’re working with teammates you trust. The best teams I’ve worked on reviews were a formality. Most of the time a quick scan and a LGTM. We worked together prior to the review as needed on areas we knew would need input from others.

AI changes none of this. If you’re putting up PRs and getting comments, you need to slow down. Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.

I’ll caveat this with that’s only if your employer cares about quality. If you’re fine passing that on to your users, might as well just stop reviewing all together.