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Re:Mozilla Thunderbolt on Thursday April 16, 2026 @11:29AM (#47794709)
This was built with money from an grant from Mozilla. See the bottom of this page: https://www.thunderbolt.io/announcing-thunderbolt
Re:Mozilla Thunderbolt on Thursday April 16, 2026 @11:28AM (#47794685)
No, this was built with money from an grant from Mozilla.
Re:Mozilla Thunderbolt on Thursday April 16, 2026 @11:28AM (#47794677)
No, this was built with money from an grant from Mozilla.
Re:Cal.com is going closed source on Thursday April 16, 2026 @07:34AM (#47791578)
Yes, we should. Will do that today
Re:Cal.com is going closed source on Thursday April 16, 2026 @07:33AM (#47791564)
Love it!
Re:Cal.com is going closed source on Thursday April 16, 2026 @07:32AM (#47791562)
Yeah. We need to create a docker container and make it easy to deploy for folks. We're not ready with the hosted option at the moment.
Re:Cal.com is going closed source on Wednesday April 15, 2026 @06:38PM (#47786264)
Head of Thunderbird project here.

Our scheduling tool, Thunderbird Appointment, will always be open source.

Repo here: https:// github.com/thunderbird/appointment

Come talk to us and build with us. We'll help you replace Cal.com

Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Saturday April 11, 2026 @06:07PM (#47734430)
Thunderbird is in a different company. Doesn't get any Google money. Only funded by donations.
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Saturday April 11, 2026 @05:56PM (#47734376)
Total mail UI/UX overhaul, total backend overhaul allowing implementation of new protocols (first new protocol was Exchange), an Android app and monthly release cadence vs yearly. And that's just to name the ones that immediately come to mind. Have plenty of users yelling at us for changing too much.

Take a look at https://blog.thunderbird.net for a play-by-play. But we're doing a helluva lot.

Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Friday April 10, 2026 @03:21PM (#47722484)
Unlimited aliases at custom domains are a part of the offering. Technically, Thundermail supports sieve rules, we do need to come up with UX to expose it to users for management.
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Friday April 10, 2026 @03:20PM (#47722463)
With custom domains... Yes! :)
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Friday April 10, 2026 @03:19PM (#47722456)
Already a part of the offering. :)
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Friday April 10, 2026 @05:54AM (#47715749)
I meant to have a "here" at the end, just typed while excited. Typically known for using too many words.
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:50PM (#47712631)
Sign up for the waitlist here: https://Thundermail.com

Also the Thundermail service is based on Stalwart (completely foss). We'll open source any additional relevant bits.

We also released the supporting services:

https://github.com/thunderbird/appointment

https://github.com/thunderbird/tbpro-add-on

https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-accounts

Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:44PM (#47712599)
I'd love to know more about what you are hitting. Care to open a bug then ping me back here? I'll put it in front of the right people.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Thunderbi...

Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:42PM (#47712582)
What would get you to switch from Fastmail?
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:40PM (#47712564)
We still need to produce a big report like this for 2025. But you can find MZLA specific info for 2024 and 2023 via the below links:

https://stats.thunderbird.net/#financials

https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/10/thunderbird-annual-repo...

Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:39PM (#47712563)
We still need to produce a big report like this for 2025. But you can find MZLA specific info for 2024 and 2023 via the below links:

https://stats.thunderbird.net/#financials

https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/10/thunderbird-annual-repo...

Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:35PM (#47712526)
That's Mozilla-wide and includes the Mozilla Corporation and other entities.

We have 2023-2024 reporting via these two links:

https://stats.thunderbird.net/#financials

https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/10/thunderbird-annual-repo...

We need to update the ratio for 2025, but it shouldn't be dramatically different.

Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:27PM (#47712461)
No, we rely on PGP encrypted email. What I'm talking about is the latter. Emails are encrypted with your public key before being stored in the database. (Our stack is based on Stalwart, you can read about how it works here: https://stalw.art/docs/encryption/overview )
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @06:40PM (#47711208)
Protonmail = privacy at all costs. Thundermail = freedom at all costs (open standards, use w/ whatever client you want, upload your own encryption key and "go dark")
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @06:39PM (#47711201)
Will support custom domains out of the box. Getting real close to launch. Join waitlist at https://thundermail.com
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @05:06PM (#47710114)
What percentage of their money do they spend on developers? If it is more than 50% on "non-charitable activities" (of which software development is not considered) - they may be on the wrong side of the IRS.
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @04:57PM (#47709964)
Sign up for the waitlist at https://thundermail.com
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @04:41PM (#47709680)
That's right. We've long had Microsoft account users across Exchange, Office365 and Outlook.com complain about having issues using Thunderbird. So we're trying to account for all protocols from MS.
Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @04:15PM (#47709217)
Thunderbird lives in an entity called MZLA, created by Mozilla and the Thunderbird Council (the elected open source community leadership) to be the legal and financial home to Thunderbird.

MZLA, which I lead, receives only money via donations from donors. We are a for-profit because the IRS is very skeptical of nonprofits who develop FOSS software (someone down below linked to a bunch of great links on this topic). We, do, however publish tons of information on what we are doing on our blog, and we are open source and a community run project, so if you really want to go deep on this - come join us in making Thunderbird.

Great links:

https://blog.thunderbird.net

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/participate/

Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @04:07PM (#47709082)
CEO of MZLA (the Mozilla entity that develops Thunderbird). One point of clarification, we don't get money from any source but our donors. After years of funding issues, MZLA was created by the Mozilla Foundation and the Thunderbird Council (our community governance body), to provide a legal/financial home for Thunderbird.

Launching Thundermail this year (an email service) which we hope to help provide even more funds for development, beyond just donations. Also serving a user need (lots of our users ask us to help them get off Gmail).

Lots of interest in how the money is spent - answer: mostly on devs, landed Exchange support recently (big for a lot of MS users), working on Graph support as well, JMAP after that. Updating the calendar (primarily UX/UI there), continuing to improve our Android app, working on a native iOS app and the aforementioned Thundermail service.

We publish yearly reports and will publish one again this year detailing all this.

Here is a 2025 recap: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/12/thunderbird-2025-review...

But the blog has a ton of updates across the different efforts: https://blog.thunderbird.net

Happy to answer questions and we are an open source project so feel free to reach out to us and engage if you really want to see how the sausage is made!

*Edit: More context on what Thunderbird Council is*

Re:Help Keep Thunderbird Alive on Thursday April 09, 2026 @03:52PM (#47708870)
I am the CEO of MZLA (the Thunderbird entity). This is a large part of the reason. ^

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