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Re:Ask HN: Gaming Startups on Monday December 15, 2008 @06:04AM (#398236)
I work in console game development, I've made Flash games, and I spent a week trying with a startup. (Subsequently I returned to console games.) Long post ahead.

When speaking of console gaming there is a considerably larger amount of formality and regulation than most web startups because of the influence manufacturers and publishers have. You work on their hardware, you are funded by hitting their milestone definitions, you are beholden to their marketing plans, and you cannot get distribution without their approvals. Studios that do big AAA titles are perpetually one project away from bankruptcy because big games ramp up to a huge staff for full production(which ideally occurs once the major unknowns of the gameplay, prototypes, engine, tools, pipeline etc. have been worked out) and unless they have a new project waiting once the first one ships, they're burning through massive overhead and face firing half or more of their employees or shutting down. The place I work for specifically avoids taking on big projects because of crushing past experiences.

Independents face a problem more similar to the early-stage startup of getting traction in the marketplace. They typically succeed via radical product differentiation, since the other angle(high quality) is covered by console developers already. This market has diverged into many subsets - to name the major ones: downloadable games, browser-based multiplayer, Flash games... each one has different production requirements and monetization strategies. While you can find plenty of success stories....there are also plenty of starving indies out there. As well, indies (as a rule) are less likely to make their games available as an ongoing, continuously improved service in the way a web company does. But the ones that go the service route, in my eyes, are more likely to succeed long-term than those following a "shipped product" model. To succeed as an indie you really need a rabid fanbase that follows your brand; the alternative is to jump onto the bandwagon of the week(casual games, girl games, etc.) and peddle your clone against 10000 other clones, which ultimately leads to a quality war and the console market situation.

Finally.....the biggest difference between websites and games is collision detection. To put it the way my boss does, "collision is gameplay." Not all games need collision, but those which involve simulated physical interactions do, and that requirement comes up astoundingly often, so it's a cornerstone game programming task. Plus, the particular implementation of collision radically influences the game so it's not a matter of dropping in library code.

That's not to say that the programming's the only problem - art is a problem because it always takes a long time, and game design is an unbounded-size problem. Solid game design happens after prototyping many different gameplay mechanics in isolation, keeping the ones that work, and then iterating over their integration until a satisfactory combination is achieved. This means: do a lot of work. Throw most of the work out. The leftover crumbs ship.

An ambitious project I am taking on now in my spare time is the angle of simplifying the game development process itself, with a website that promotes sharing and reuse of game-related content under Creative Commons. Long-term I want to add editing tools to create specific game types, but that is an easy task to underestimate and the web entrepreneurs that I've seen take it on so far have either grossly cut back on the features to get something done in a few weeks(making the service mostly useless) or allowed the scope to grow too large, finally failing after a depressingly massive effort. (see Gameclay)

Re:What's a lifelong realtor to do in this economy? on Monday October 13, 2008 @01:41AM (#330808)
If he has a good track record, he can probably sell his experience; he just needs to get out there and start networking in whatever field he's aiming for.

This advice is made on the assumption that he's in a major metropolitan area with the kinds of conferences and informal gatherings to allow a new start.

Re:I’m Still Going Long and Hoping the Markets Go Down on Friday October 10, 2008 @04:21PM (#329215)
Exactly.

If you invested in the index, you break even over that period.

But if you invest in big winners(taking Apple and Microsoft for known examples in tech) you come out way ahead.

Re:Poll: How many hours of sleep do you get each day? on Friday October 10, 2008 @01:22PM (#329040)
It depends on how early I go to bed. When I turn in later I wake up later.
Re:To Start a Company or Stay 100% Focused on School? on Monday October 06, 2008 @02:18AM (#324669)
School gave me the time to think and dabble and develop a lot of my personal philosophies and perspective. The business world tends to do the opposite because of the endless drive for fast and cheap. Either way, you lose one aspect of your individuality and gain another.

The idea of improving "how things are done around here" - the process - is what ultimately excites me about business. Others, I think, focus on making the best products, on building a great community around the company brand, or on improving the world's condition. And I think it is these high-level endeavors that should be one's focus, no matter what the specific business is. If you don't know which of those interest you, get a job in the field you like, and the business problems you want to solve will reveal themselves quickly.

Re:Should I use XMPP for my startup's messaging system? on Saturday October 04, 2008 @02:54PM (#323615)
Some thoughts:

Will the cost of maintaining the hand-rolled code exceed the cost of working with XMPP tech (and subsequently benefiting from an existing community and proven reliable code)? Hiring someone for an existing standard, for example, means less legwork documenting and codifying your own system.

What rate of feature growth do you see, if any? Whatever solution you choose now, assumptions will start being made against it in future code, and they will slow down a switch later.

One way you could research this further is to do the bare minimum test case of both techniques in isolation from your other work. You won't have the "but I have to consider x" in the back of your head, doing it that way.

Re:Ask YC: I just got laid off, and I have some startup dreams. on Thursday October 02, 2008 @03:14PM (#322036)
When I got my game gig it was through demonstrating work at a Meetup group(San Francisco Game Developers), so I know this is a good place to start. I'm planning to show for as many of these events as I can.
Re:Ask YC: I just got laid off, and I have some startup dreams. on Thursday October 02, 2008 @03:08PM (#322030)
Thanks for your comments, everyone. I'll start following up on specific comments shortly, but some general thoughts:

My reasons for wanting to go for a new business have to do with the calcified nature of the development process; now that I've "seen the elephant" in this side of the business it's all much less interesting, and it won't get better just by changing my employer. It won't get better by going indie, even. I want to go beyond shipping products and find the next level - the franchise, the organization, whatever term might apply.

So in that sense I'm not worried about the product idea, just the process - the potential of changing and improving it. That's where I think the startup world has something to offer.

Ask YC: I just got laid off, and I have some startup dreams.

Some background: I graduated college a little over a year ago with an Economics BA. I have the start of a career in game development; I did level design and scripting on a work-for-hire console license, which went six months from contract to ship. (Not a sane schedule.) There was stress, long hours, a month of working weekends, but I'm fine now; and the game shipped.Since then the company...

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Re:Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs on Tuesday September 30, 2008 @01:19PM (#319784)
In large part the critiques seem to center around failings of minimal prefix syntax(failings which I would agree with). Minor errors that in bulkier languages are caught by the compiler, become logic errors in a Lisp; an easy way to become frustrated as a learner.
Some problems become easier when I'm sleepy because I can't think as clearly but I start to focus very well.

Other problems demand several passes of experimentation. For those it's easier to try a quick test during the day, think about it while doing other things, and then wake up with the (possible) solution the next day.

Re:Hackerteen, the hacker's superhero comic on Thursday September 25, 2008 @01:16AM (#314547)
I happened to run into this in the bookstore today. I don't recall it making any waves online, but it's a fun read and uses a lot of real-world concepts. Definitely worth checking out.
Re:Flex: The Unix Geek's Ideal Flash Environment on Thursday September 18, 2008 @10:56PM (#308859)
If you hate having redundant types, I highly recommend using haXe. It has type inference by first-usage so in most cases you don't need to specify any type. If you want to get around the type system it has untyped{} code blocks, casts, and the "Dynamic" type, all of which throw type safety over to the runtime interpreter.
Re:Flex: The Unix Geek's Ideal Flash Environment on Thursday September 18, 2008 @10:50PM (#308854)
That's awesome. Do you guys post on the compiler list?
Re:2d Collision Detection as Done in the game "N" on Saturday September 13, 2008 @10:33PM (#303543)
This is not a new article by any means, but it's a good overview of the kinds of approaches one might take in collision.

One of the directors at my workplace has the motto "Collision is gameplay" because of the high importance of getting these dynamics right -- whether you allow things to interpenetrate or not, how general the allowed shapes are, etc. The algorithms can get complex very quickly if you let them, and sometimes an accurate and realistic physical simulation turns out to be the wrong thing.

Re:Ask HN: Beaten to the punch by a competitor, advice? on Thursday September 11, 2008 @11:55PM (#302082)
You have the "second move" in this chess game of monopolistic competition. Even highly successful, technically superior, first-to-market products have been beaten out by competitors.
Re:Programming's Dirtiest Little Secret on Wednesday September 10, 2008 @10:49PM (#301009)
If Steve Yegge typed slower, I wouldn't have to read as much.
Re:Gamer backlash against Spore DRM on Tuesday September 09, 2008 @05:05AM (#299235)
Some random thoughts, as a game developer:

AAA games as we know them will peak and then decline. The PC is inexorably moving towards a fully open-standard platform on which DRM-laden products cannot work. Consoles don't suffer the same problem, but by cutting themselves off from an open world and locking the hardware specs at a fixed low level, they force development costs considerably higher. The Wii points to a future console market that seeks disruptive hardware innovations over a market-share battle, but development costs mean that third parties will have few incentives to participate in such a market.

Also, games with a large engineering scope have an astonishingly poor track record. Games with a high content scope are much more likely to succeed.

Re:Project Longshot: 100 Year probe mission to Alpha Centauri on Monday September 08, 2008 @12:09AM (#297991)
My favorite Wikipedia article(and also a space-related article) is "Ultimate fate of the universe":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_fate_of_the_universe

It's the dramatic title that does it for me.

I understood the ad.

What do I do now?

Re:Help us spread our site to your school on Tuesday August 26, 2008 @01:45AM (#286809)
At UC Santa Cruz there is a Livejournal community with an end-of-quarter "post anonymous secrets" thread. Exactly what is described here, and very popular. I think other campus LJ communities did the same as well.

I'm surprised at the critical attitudes -- that there are two competitors is reason for encouragement and indicates that the market you're targeting is no illusion. All you have to do is make your site better and better-known than the other guys.

I have no plans to learn new languages for the time being. I've been exposed to most of the big concepts, so I feel a creeping sense of diminishing returns as I have to invest time in increasingly different syntaxes to learn anything really different.

That is time I could spend building out more productive libraries and architecture for my real goals.

Re:Tenerife Skunkworks: My road to Lisp on Monday August 18, 2008 @02:21PM (#279518)
This blog smells fake.
Re:Ask PG: What are your thoughts on current YC News community? on Saturday August 09, 2008 @01:50AM (#271459)
I had a thought re: site quality -- which is that a community ends up with a focus whether it likes it or not, as the community hardens and desires a regular feedback loop -- so while Digg and Reddit opened themselves to a "lowest common denominator" and reaped what they've sown....YC started with a focus on hacking and startups. Which is good for YC content, since it means the people who are interested in it are predominantly optimistic, thoughtful, or both.

Lambda the Ultimate is another good example of this; even as it's gained popularity, it's preserved an agenda that avoids language wars and other noisy content. I would say that because of its narrow focus, its quality is even higher than news.YC!

One online community which has imposed some standard of quality from above, without topical limitations, is the Something Awful forums. The strategy there is to use fee-gating and heavy moderation with frequent and somewhat inconsistent punishment. The results are dubious - for some posters it becomes a game to see what one can get away with, and the overall quality is only increased in that a larger percentage of posters take time for spelling and grammar, and obvious trolls get banned, but clever ones do not. Basically, moderation treats only some symptoms of an underlying problem: people treating the online world as if they were sitting down at the bar with 30,000 of their best friends.

That said, the worst elements of YC in the long term will probably correlate to the worst elements of the startup world.

Re:The Urban Bike is the One on Monday August 04, 2008 @07:17PM (#266902)
I already have a working urban transport. I regularly ride a Xootr scooter (http://www.xootr.com/) for a working commute of about 2.5 miles, mostly on flat terrain. It takes 20-30 minutes. I can take it into the gym and fit it in a half-height locker.

Caveat: It reacts poorly against upward elevation - parallel cracks like those between the gutter and the bike lane are likely to throw you. I got a stitch in my knee from exactly that situation. I stay on the sidewalk now.

Re:Some Thoughts on the Open Web Foundation on Sunday July 27, 2008 @03:17AM (#258101)
Flash is an open specification: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/
I suggest looking at the "Worse Is Better"/"Right Thing" discussion, as it maps perfectly to your situation: http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html

Worse Is Better gives you fast results with tradeoffs that you already knew of, while Right Thing approaches will allow you to discover hidden problems as you attempt to write the ideal program. So you learn more when you start from scratch, and that is a worthy goal.

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