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Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @01:05PM (#39618840)
Since the Messenger Application on desktop is much closer to the usage model of the Texts.com client. We want to replicate the desktop client as closely as possible. It can be assumed there’s going to be properties that are unique to the desktop client and vice versa.
Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @12:54AM (#39612762)
This only works on Android, we had no interest in intercepting the Android application.
Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @12:34AM (#39612663)
Their Android application in particular allows the participation in a developer program which allows access to one of these menus. Not available on macOS and iOS unfortunately!
Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @10:14PM (#39611887)
Fair! In that case, yes you totally have access to the payload before its encrypted.
Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @09:28PM (#39611552)
Good question, Proxyman is the one I'm using in the writeup. It does route all application through it on macOS, and you can proxy iOS devices as well by installing a self-signed certificate on the device and connecting it through the proxy.
Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @09:06PM (#39611433)
It prevents attack vectors that involve attacker-owned certificate authorities as well as compromised certificate authorities from exposing user-data.

https://sslmate.com/resources/certificate_authority_failures

Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @07:59PM (#39611027)
Not the case with asymmetric encryption, you could encrypt with a public key and only the server's private key would be able to decrypt it. Not even the client could.
Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @06:31PM (#39610443)
You're right, it probably could have been implemented by only assigning the output of the sandbox flag function in the consumer function to true, but in this case it worked fine. :)
Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @06:30PM (#39610437)
I will say that ChatGPT did a decent job of explaining non-documented instructions in prior attempts of binary patching.

Now if I could feed an AI a binary and have it tell me where what is happening in a very broad scope, that'd be a game changer, and I'd say that's quite attainable with a high-context window LLM as they seemingly understand hex-formatted byte-code quite well.

Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @06:25PM (#39610394)
It's probably a matter of priorities, as well as cost v. benefit.

Obfuscation would've had very little effect on the outcome of this experiment, but might've changed the approach to involve dynamic instrumentation a little more. The most effective obfuscation I've seen is VM obfuscation, but that presents a significant performance impact. Obfuscation would also make legitimate debugging harder.

Preventing modified binaries is done at the system level, and could feasibly be implemented at the application level and is common, but this functionality itself could be both bypassed, or modifications could simply be implemented after security checks have completed (once again, through dynamic instrumentation libraries like Frida).

Engaging in a cat-and-mouse game with reverse engineers probably isn't in Meta's best interest.

Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @06:09PM (#39610277)
> With Meta’s Messenger application for macOS being so close to the Texts.com model—that being a standalone desktop application—Batuhan İçöz who is leading the Meta platform project at Texts.com thought we could gain some valuable insight by analyzing it.
Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @06:01PM (#39610217)
Snapchat and TikTok both boast pretty gnarly RE-prevention measures.
Re:Cracking Meta's Messenger Certificate Pinning on macOS on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @05:40PM (#39610057)
This was initially an internal post at Texts.com that we decided to share, and I scrapped mention of the fact I had tried the exact same approach a few weeks prior and reached my time-box as well.

I initially spent two hours trying to modify different instructions, and then gave up. I saw another blog post written by a reverse engineer by the name of "Hassan Mostafa" (aka cyclon3) that previously succeeded in the same approach (taking Hopper Disassembler to Instagram on iOS) and I was inspired to try again that night, but I had no luck. I even found and attempted to modify the same instructions.

I decided to call it quits, and then a few weeks later with a bit of a grudge, I spontaneously tried again and I had it done in about 30 minutes after finding the sandbox function.

It acts as a linked device, and you are interfacing directly with Signal's servers with the same protocol that their desktop and mobile applications use.
Re:Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad on Monday October 10, 2022 @06:18PM (#33157052)
Author here, for the record, I never said the problem was the imposition of processes, I know that is totally necessary, and was listing great "pluses" to Jira as a management tool.

Something I think I could have iterated better in the blog post was that I believe Jira--even without all the bureaucratic processes it promotes--panders solely to higher-level management with zero regard for the ones interfacing with it: the engineers. That's the big issue I see.

I think Linear--by stripping away all the hullabaloo--continues to provide management good insight on team progress without abandoning the ones who actually use it on a daily basis.

I'm really hoping Linear continues to step up to the plate and manages to take on some of the features that make Jira a more attractive piece of software for a lot of people that are familiar with it veering Linear away from its great UI, speed, etc. However, I wonder how many people are actually picking Jira based on its merits rather than it just being what they're accustomed/used to, or simply not knowing there are other options out there.

Re:Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:36AM (#33150547)
Huge oversight on my part, I think I've beaten this horse to death though, and will probably leave the topic for the time-being.
Re:Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:35AM (#33150541)
Author here, was just Googling my post to figure out why it was suddenly getting tons of views. FWIW I love my job, not burned out, but yeah... dealing with Jira has been a serious pain in the butt, especially coming from Linear.
Re:Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:34AM (#33150529)
Well put. Seriously.
Re:Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:34AM (#33150528)
It shouldn't hijack it, but you're the second to complain on this specific topic, so I went ahead and removed it on the blog post screens.

I was initially trying to figure out if someone was DDoS'ing my website, but it seems as though the post just made it to HN. :P

Re:Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:33AM (#33150519)
Was trying to figure out why my website randomly got way above its normal daily usage, looks like I found it.

FWIW, I went ahead and removed it on the blog post pages.