reybango

You may want to try to build your own online service or product. You'll have accountability to customers which is obviously important but you'll also have more flexibility in your schedule.

Seems to be working for me. Weird. Maybe a momentary hiccup?

What's the tool/project? If it's popular and you're struggling, a lot of folks may not know about it and may step up to help out.

All I'm saying is that we go to great lengths to get companies OFF the CV list. If they're on it, it's for a reason. We can't update their code for them.

It's also possible that Google made a change to their SERPs that didn't go nicely with the docmode IE11 is rendering it in.

Again you're full of assumptions.

We're very proactive in our compat outreach and we've had numerous conversations with sites like Google. Sites like Google are VERY aware of the CV list & the modes they're rendering in; it's not a surprise to them.

Don't assume we're doing something nefarious when it's not the case. We have nothing to gain (and a lot to lose) by breaking one of the top web properties, even if they're a competitor.

Here's a more plausible scenario. Google may have made a change to their SERPs which didn't work great in the docmode that IE11 is rendering it in. Nothing intentional, nothing nefarious on either company's part.

I think that's a more reasonable explanation than the concerns you're expressing.

Google's been on the list well before the public GA release of IE11 to ensure compatibility.

If it had worked fine, it would never have been added in the first place. We don't add sites arbitrarily to the list. It's based on actual compat testing. Also every site on the list can request to be removed so if Google had tested in IE11 and discovered all was great, it's very easy for them to contact us to remove them from the list.

You're making an assumption that Microsoft are the blocker. Let's just say that it's a two-way street when it comes to communication.

"For a site like Google, I see no reason why Microsoft should have put it into compatibility mode- I have to assume that Google does testing on IE and any bugs should have been addressed quickly by Google."

Unfortunately, we see otherwise during our compat testing here at Microsoft on many occasions.

Are you saying that because it's actually crap or you just don't want to spend money on software?

Does that matter?

Could you ask Stuart to email me a test case so I can look at it? We tried looking for a way to get a hold of him but couldn't find any short of a general email address on the company site.

reybango at microsoft [dot] com