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Was just trying to push earlier today and found out about the issue. Sorry man! Drinks on me in Montevideo, Uruguay. This stuff happens, more than most of us are willing to accept so, here is for your transparency and you know, fix it, learn it and on you go!

Hi, I'm one of the organizers of the event, feel free to ask any questions!

Yes, that's true. Messed up as it is.

>The difference between the two systems is that one of them, even when implemented incorrectly, still works in practice.

No, the difference between them is everything but that. IMHO Communism is more just, intelligent and advanced way of doing things... Saying that Capitalism "works" is just untrue, though it would be good to know what are your reasons to think that, and what news do you read? What's a socio-economic system that "works" for you?

>The other one is an intellectual's dream that caused pain and suffering for millions of people.

"An intellectual's dream", seriously? For starters it is not just one intellectual but lots of the brightest sociological minds on history, and also, it's not a dream, the idea of communism has all the backing of centuries of sociological development and science, and it's a very plausible evolution to the non-ever-working capitalism.

>We should drop the "no true Scotsman" for Communism, at this point.

Agree. My point though, is that we can't keep stigmatizing communism and misusing the term because of poor knowledge or out-of-space-time implementations.

Nice. And you didn't take my parenthesis as a warning! Give me 10..

erratum: "dollars on busting" should be "dollars on boosting"

What's that communism thing you talk about anyway? Doesn't sound like the Marx I read.

Also, please, define "disaster".

Since by my knowledge, Cuba is neither a disaster, nor a communist country...

Yeah well, on 2016, the ability a Cuban citizen has to change it's surroundings on certain aspects is probably higher than that of an US citizen with the same aspects/surroundings, so, if proven, is US a dictatorship in a mask?

Your statement is at the very least, buggy.

Political dissent is allowed, not encouraged. Another thing is the US gov investing gazillion dollars on busting the career of a dissident blogger and hence everybody (lazy) reading shitty news... Why not invest it on the very successful Cuban research on Cancer? A mistery?

And if you go to Cuba and talk with Cubans you will see most of us want more BUT love what we have. And in general, we are happy people, look at statistics, look at health charts, education, poverty, suicide charts if that's your thing... so, yes, dictatorship.

Also, things have been and are changing... Raul Castro said he would be stepping out after 5 years and I believe he will, and then all the "representative" democracy elections that won't solve anything.

Democracy per se is not a good thing, but it is the perfect instrument for those able to influence masses.

Almost right. It's both a political and a technical issue. Like you don't get a whole country with access to the internet from one day to the other without signing a contract with the devil (whatever that is). So, it takes time, but it is happening, Cuba is getting online, and there's no step back.

Totally.

"Influence Cuba" WTF? That's not a healthy/productive way of thinking... What's that you want to "influence" exactly? really? don't you know there are lots of fields where US and most countries in the world would benefit from Cuban influence instead?

And in any case, it shouldn't be about influencing as surely is right now for the powerful Goliat, but about doing the right thing at the very least.

I'm Cuban and I'm all for your cause! I can be as upset as you are.

It's great to hear Stripe has solved it but remains a mistery WHY Atlas wasn't available for Puerto Rico long time ago? What's the deal? But then again @adolfojp, Puerto Rico, as we all know is US territory for the good of US, no matter Puerto Ricans, right?

(I'm a Cuban entrepreneur) Everything-Cuba has been always media-hype. I believe, in part, due to the poor understanding and information out there about the country. All in all, if you compare, the Cuban government has been actually opening up and allowing much more economic freedom now than it did for many years, and I believe they will continue doing so, as it's in their best interest as well as that of the cuban people. If by "greater" you mean neo-liberalism or alike, I don't think we would do that, but who knows, shit happens.

Stripe's move is clever but not because of the "media play" only ... they are doing the best thing an US business can do regarding an opening Cuba right now, they will see tons of cuban businesses applying right away, and I bet a very high cash-flow, what's not to like?

Also, I can vouch for Merchise Startups (the guys Stripe are partnering with), and they know their ground, that's something you can say about (sadly) too few people in Cuba, regarding business, entrepreneurship and startups anyway. So the move gets clever by the minute...

and joined ;)

ah, awesome, following!

This is so cool, i know first hand Cuba has a lot to offer on IT and innovation, I'm in! Do you guys have a mailing list or some other channel? I would like to get notified when new stuff happens.