phaedradiana
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:19PM (#16633296)
We very much appreciate the support and pushback. Both make us better. We have to present at Demo Day soon. We are not ignoring the comments, we just have to prep! We will be back online later today. Thank you.
Phaedra and Diana
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:17PM (#16633281)
They would probably choose to get out without our program. The system works better for people with money. We are trying to bend the arc of justice but it is still bent.We are working with a population that is incarcerated because they cannot afford bail.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:16PM (#16633266)
I spent 13 years of my life electing candidates. We just disagree. We wanted an alternative and solutions.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:15PM (#16633263)
We are pragmatic founders. We spent most of our professional like advocating for these changes and realized we wanted a more immediate solution. We are also worried that the absence of bail can actually lead to more incarceration. Kentucky got rid of private bail but the system is still fundamentally unjust.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:13PM (#16633244)
But, no to staying in jail as a choice. I share the concern about storing data.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:13PM (#16633234)
Yes. It is why the app does not do continuous GPS monitoring and does not store days of GPS data.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:11PM (#16633221)
We are starting with non violent offenders, who make up 2/3 of the jail population.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:10PM (#16633215)
Thank you!
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @04:00PM (#16632003)
We love this! Right now the incentives are wrong. Contractors are paid per person, per day, which creates the wrong incentives.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:59PM (#16631990)
It is a judge. However, there is a recent court decision(Humphrey), that is creating a lot of change within the system.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:58PM (#16631980)
We are measured by Failure to Appear (FTA) rates, participation in a a court mandated plan, rate of recidivism, ease of use for case managers.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:56PM (#16631960)
I replied a bit further along in the comments. I am the co-founder. Thank you.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:55PM (#16631954)
Thank you. This is a beautiful answer. We agree on the criteria for evaluating what someone's risk is. Currently, it is primarily decided by the court. We are learning and adapting our own tool based on tools such as the one by the Arnold Foundation but also using qualitative analysis.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:53PM (#16631927)
Very good feedback. Our site is focused on our clients who use very specific language. We will think about how to speak to folks who are not in the system right now.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:51PM (#16631919)
(1) We believe scale will be critical. Also, qualitative and quantitative analysis. I do not think this can be solved only through technology.
(2) Parolees are post conviction. We are focused on people who are incarcerated pre trial because they cannot afford bail.
(3) This is not what we said but really helpful to understand that is how it reads. We will need to think about it. Fundamentally, we are trying to make the system more just. People who can afford bail can get out, only people with less money usually stay incarcerated when they are bail eligible.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:45PM (#16631873)
Right now they are being incarcerated. We believe having technology that supports you is better than being incarcerated.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:18PM (#16631669)
To date, 90 percent of the population we are working with in our current counties have smart phones.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:17PM (#16631661)
We agree on general concern about for profit prisons. Diana and I met working at a non profit. She founded the Ella Baker Center and I worked in the labor movement. However, we created a company with those values because we believed this put us in the best position to scale the solutions we believed in.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:16PM (#16631647)
The fundamental issue is that we are focusing on poor people who are bail eligible and incarcerated only because they cannot afford bail. Yes, some people who have been accused of a crime, do commit an additional crime. However, it is fundamentally unjust to only incarcerate those who are poor and mostly black and brown.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:14PM (#16631633)
We love these questions because they are at the heart of why we founded this company. I am a woman of color whose family members have been in the system and Diana is a criminal defense lawyer by trade. We have spent a lot of time looking at assessment tools. At this point, we need both qualitative and quantitative analysis.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:11PM (#16631613)
Thank you!
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:11PM (#16631610)
Those are both post conviction. We are focusing on pre-trial. Primarily, people who would be incarcerated while waiting for a trial because they cannot afford bail.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:10PM (#16631603)
Thank you!
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:10PM (#16631597)
Petty theft or burglary.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:07PM (#16631565)
Thank you!
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:06PM (#16631561)
74 percent of people in county jails are waiting for a trial. Of that a majority are bail eligible, but cannot afford it. They have not been convicted of the crime they were arrested for. We are focusing on the population that would otherwise be incarcerated because they cannot afford bail.
Re:Launch HN: Promise (YC W18) – Cost-effective, more humane alternati...
on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:04PM (#16631539)
Thank you!