padseeker
I've used turbo/stimulus/hotwire. It's best suited for STATELESS interactions withe the browser/web page. The problem is not all desired user experiences and use cases are stateless. And the ecosystem for hotwire is a minuscule fraction of all the other popular js frameworks.
If you're searching for inventory available its perfect. However if you want to update one thing based on the most recently touched input it becomes more complicated and in all honesty more trouble that it's worth.
Honestly if you're a solo Rails dev, use whatever you want. However the React ecosystem, and really all of the other popular JS ecosystems (vue, ), are very strong and you have so many available options. Stimulus is 2 steps back from jQuery, it inverted the Event delegation pattern. No one else outside of the rails community is using it.
This post is certainly being critical, but I'm also not here to bring the hammer down. I am saying that it has grown very popular, and that makes it harder to get noticed. I know more than a few people have publicly complained on twitter about how their startup listing has been removed or bumped.
I also know there are a lot of scammers out there that PH has to battle against, trying to game the system. I know the people at G2.com when they started and were giving away free ipads for the top people with the most software reviews in a month, and someone tried to jump ahead by downvoting all the reviews of the people ahead of them in a month.
Clearly though expectations have changed. I'm certainly bummed for the 60% of the staff who were laid off. You can't just share your startup without some serious work beforehand or else you risk blowing your shot at 15 minutes of startup internet fame.
My point is not that PH is dying or not, but the game has changed and it has hurt makers who do this for the hope of making a full time living, and we're being crowded out by VC funded startups and previous PH launchers who have had past success (i.e. Tallyforms) that are "relaunching" and sucking up the little amount of attention available on PH. It's frustrating.
here's a couple of twitter feeds that center on the drama related to product hunt;
https://x.com/WhoWorksThere/status/1840822087868375085
https://x.com/csallen/status/1840792433447391560
https://x.com/HeyImYossi/status/1840634391040577847
theres a lot more in my feed and the people I follow this could be an all day thing but I hope this supports the headline of my post.
Options of "local hosting for development purposes"? Do you mean running "rails s" locally on your machine?
Maybe I should have shared in the article all the twitter posts where indie hackers are upset how they are getting screwed and how hard it is to get ranked on PH. There is a lot more drama surrounding PH than just the CTO not knowing one well known community member.
There are lots of other affordable, but probably not free, options now;
https://railway.app/ https://fly.io/ https://www.hetzner.com/ https://www.digitalocean.com/ https://render.com/
Product Hunt isn't dying, it's becoming gentrified
Subreddits to submit your startup without getting banned
Show HN: Top (48) sites to launch a SaaS in 2023, bootstrapper edition
Show HN: 400+ Places to Launch Your Startup, with reviews for each
The hardest part of building software is not coding, it’s requirements
Show HN: 400 sites to submit your startup to, reviewed
I scraped more than 400 urls that were listed as supposed good places to launch a startup. I checked out each one, and found a lot of neglected sites, domains for sale, sites asking a lot of money to list your startup, etc. I made notes about my experience with each. I think this could be useful to other startups.
Launch Point Zero: Track your product launch
There are ways to keep things simple with the front end, only add js for the things where you want instant visual feedback. It requires a little pushback on the part of the dev team, against UX and Product management.
It would be nearly impossible to this for Salesforce. But for a lot of other applications like Slack and Dropbox, you could carve out a profitable niche.
"There are a few good use cases for refs:
Managing focus, text selection, or media playback.
Triggering imperative animations.
Integrating with third-party DOM libraries.
Avoid using refs for anything that can be done declaratively.
...Don’t Overuse Refs:
Your first inclination may be to use refs to “make things happen” in your app. If this is the case, take a moment and think more critically about where state should be owned in the component hierarchy. Often, it becomes clear that the proper place to “own” that state is at a higher level in the hierarchy. See the Lifting State Up guide for examples of this."
If you are using refs to talk to your child inputs you've made a mistake. React talks about RAISING THE STATE - for complex forms you need to make all of your inputs controlled, you need to manage the state at the highest level. You need to push those changes down to child components, none of them should have their own state.React gives you some nice tools to handle most common use cases but you can still make less than optimal decisions.