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Thank you for your comment.

We have an investigational product, which means it can only be used in the context of a clinical trial.

All products that eventually reach the clinic have to go through this step and rigorous testing before being available to physicians and patients.

That is correct. It is a retro diels alder reaction. Here is a link to an earlier report from us, that has the chemical structures: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acscentsci.6b00150
Thank you. We are very proud of what the team has accomplished and optimistic based on what the CAPAC platform has shown in preclinical studies. The unique aspect of this is that it is based on chemistry not biology so it seems that the reproducibility across species (and hopefully across patients) is better.
Thank you for your wishes.

Nothing special about doxorubicin. This is a broad technology that can be applied to many cancer therapies, including radionuclides as you as asked.

I agree with your comments on using a known agent.

Yes. Any solid tumor that is accesible for an injection and we have reason to suspect it would be sensitive to doxorubicin, would fit the criteria of this phase 1 study. For more info on the clinical trial please visit: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04106492
Thank you for your comment.

Our approach increases the extracellular concentration of Dox and then it does the same job that it usually does.

I am sorry to hear that.

With regards to your point about liquid biopsies.

To have a minimally invasive sensitive and specific test would be a great addition to the toolbox against cancer. However, if it comes back positive, then what comes next? Maybe surgery? But if we had therapies that were highly effective and could concentrate the cancer drug at the tumor with minimal side effects that may be preferential or supportive to going through the operating room, anesthesia and necessary morbidity of surgery. And potentially you could do this multiple times if needed.

Because this cannot be achieved with one dose. Also think about diffusion in tissue of small molecules. Essentially within an hour or two, anything that you injected in the tumor is gone. So now you are asking about killing everything with a drug in a specific part of the body within one hour without much damage to the rest of the body... It does not sound that easy anymore and that is probably why people resort to surgery, in other words remove the diseased tissue. The problem is that it is often hard to make sure you have removed all of the diseased tissue and you have “clean margins” and none of those cells have already infiltrated areas of the body where you could not detect them. In other words, a pretty challenging problem. Having another tool available to fight this disease would be significantly beneficial.
Exactly. For us at Shasqi, it was about combining the spatial control of surgery with the temporal control (flexibility of dosing) of oral or intravenous drugs.
Thank you for your comments. With regards to your questions.

On chemo leading to cytotoxic vs immune killing I am not sure that we have reached the point of a consensus on this. I would say that there is more and more evidence of the involvement of the immune system even with therapies that were considered exclusively chemotherapies. I would suggest looking up the work of Guido Kroemer on immunogenic cell death.

On the CAPAC approach fitting that model Well, our inclination is that our current knowledge is limited by what can be achieved with our current dosing technologies.

For instance, in the specific case of Doxorubicin, you cannot give more than 75 mg/m2 without significantly endangering a person’s health. Assume that only 1-2% of that dose actually reaches the tumor. How would you know what 10x that dose at the tumor would do? Also how could you separate the effect on the tumor and the side effects that it causes? About 20-30 years ago, investigators were experimenting with increasing the dose by 20-30% by providing highly risky interventions such as bone marrow transplant. Not surprisingly those studies showed that the toxicity from the drugs was leading to deaths more quickly than the actual disease, so the efforts were abandoned. We believe that the CAPAC technology allows one to explore biological effects, including a potential activation of the immune system that we have not been able to explore yet. And that is only talking about a single chemotherapy. Imagine if you could have at your disposal many cancer drugs with different mechanisms of action all working at the tumor site at the same time. The effects could be revolutionary.

With regards to the tumor model We have used different syngeneic lines (fast growing, slow growing) and they all point in the same direction. We have not tried yet spontaneous tumor models.

By the way, the efficacy is not matched with that of conventional doxorubicin. The efficacy is surpassed with fewer side effects.

I am not sure that there is any one path or unique suggestion. But my general advice was to stay curious, learn as much as possible and keep an eye for what could be, rather than just accepting things as they are. Also I strongly believe in the cross pollination of concepts leading to unique ideas. So having some sort of orthogonal knowledge in addition to medicine is helpful (e.g. business, chemistry, biology, programming, etc).
Thank you for sharing. The book looks interesting, but I have not read it yet, so I cannot comment.
That is absolutely right. By honing the drug to the tumor, and minimizing the effects on the rest of the body, you are essentially able to unlock power on the tumor that would have put the patient's life at risk before. Taken it even a step further, if you have a system that selectively gets the drug to the tumor, then you can give combinations of cancer drugs that would be otherwise lethal, also preventing the possibility of mutations that would make the tumor unaffected by a single drug. The possibilities are immense.
The CAPAC technology allows you to give multiple daily doses of the therapy for 5 consecutive days after injecting the tumor with the biopolymer once. This is a significant advantage to needing to inject the tumor daily.
Thank you for your comment. Congratulations on your positive response and recovery.

Our goal is to enable the same response in others who may experience side effects and may have to forgo treatment because of it.

Doxorubicin, also nicknamed red devil or red death, is notorious for its side effects. In addition to the bone marrow toxicity common to most chemotherapies, a person cannot receive more than 6 doses of doxorubicin in their lifetime without increasing their risk of heart failure. So when patients respond to doxorubicin, but more doses are needed, the patient and the doctors face a difficult choice: risk of death from the cancer or risk of cardiac failure. Shasqi is trying to change that equation for solid tumors. We are not focused on lymphomas yet.

In addition, for those who are interested in learning more, here are two pre-print manuscripts that we submitted this week.

This one talks about the effect of our therapy on local and distant tumors:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.13.337899v1

This other one talks about the potential applications of the CAPAC platform and the versatility of our chemistry approach:

https://doi.org/10.26434/chemrxiv.13087715.v1

1. Cancer is characterized as local tumor, locoregional or distant (metastasis). 2. Our approach can certainly help patients with local or locoregional disease. 3. As we have presented in multiple cancer conferences, our approach seems to also help with distant disease, because by focusing more powerful therapy to the tumor, sparing the rest of your body, we give the body the opportunity to recognize the tumor as foreign and fight it. https://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/80/16_Supplement/... https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.13.337899v1
Thank you for your thoughts and question.

There has been a recent wave of intratumoral approaches particularly for immunooncology (e.g. TLR, Sting, oncolytic viruses) and there are manuscripts in the scientific literature about the technical challenges and possibilities (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle...).

So, to your question, yes it is specialized, but not particularly difficult. We have taken great care to leverage the learnings of those experts to minimize the challenges of interpatient variability.

But we will only know for sure if our efforts where sufficient once the human clinical data comes back. For now I can say that our preclinical studies are highly encouraging.

Sorry to hear about your girlfriend. I have heard those feelings as well. They are not uncommon. The probability of success changes as you move further in the development. Below there is a link for a booklet that talks about the general pharma odds in page 53.

In our particular case, we took a known chemotherapeutic agent called doxorubicin. It has been used for the last 40 years in about a dozen types of tumors (include certain types of breast cancer).

The problem is that 3 out of every 4 patients end up major side effects to their immune system (e.g. neutropenia), but even worse, you can only take about 6 doses in your whole life, otherwise your risk for cardiac damage increases very rapidly. It is known colloquially as red death and red devil, because of its red color.

Using that drug as the starting block for our approach improves our probability of success and helps us know what to expect in terms of side effects.

Historically, and probably the mainstream hypothesis, is that you need chemo to be systemic in order to take care of micrometastatic disease (tumors that you cannot see). However, with the advent of immunooncology (IO) therapies (drugs that help your body recognize the tumor) and the benefits of having chemo + IO drugs is challenging that dogma. Certain chemo drugs are known to trigger an immune response. Having a technology that gives intense amount of chemo at the tumor and without diminishing the persons immune system. Our technology opens the door to have this effect in humans. We have seen those effects in mice studies and presented the results in cancer conferences.
That is an interesting question. Thank you for sharing. Indeed, I was a chemistry PhD before going to medical school. Unfortunately, there are no easy shortcuts that I know of. Interestingly it is a bit unpredictable if somebody will practice medicine or not when they go to do an MD or MD/PhD.
This is Jose, CEO of Shasqi. There are three firsts that Shasqi announced this morning: 1. First time click chemistry is used in humans. 2. First YC company to reach first-in-human clinical trials 3. First two patients dosed for SQ3370 in Shasqi's Phase 1 clinical trial

More info can be found here:

https://www.shasqi.com/

https://blog.ycombinator.com/shasqi-first-in-human-clinical-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_chemistry