kahlonel

Wrong. I’m still doing it.

99% people in this thread have no idea what you mean. And that’s the reason projects like these make it to frontpage every other day and have hundreds of upvotes/comments.

Embedded software developer here, with very minimal professional hardware design experience. I mostly write nostdlib C, and never use malloc. I write peripheral drivers from scratch even if there’s an “SDK” for it. I spend almost 40% of my time reading documentation, 30% scribbling state machines, 15% writing code and 15% testing it on hardware. LLMs don’t help me much. I use them to write scripts for me to parse my stdout and find patterns. For breakfast, I fight EEs to prove their hardware doesn’t work. I have exploded hardware setups for the products I’m developing for on my desk. JLink is the favorite thing in my aresenal. Even the slightest latency on my text editor annoys the shit out of me, which is why I don’t use IDEs.

Now we have vulnerabilities in two different flavors.

You mean the implementation is faster than the one in C. Because nothing is “faster than C”.

> Nobody really likes C++ or CMake, and there's no clear path for getting off old toolchains. Every year the pain will get worse. C++ is becoming a legacy language and finding contributors in the future will become difficult, while Rust has an active and growing community.

This makes me wanna vomit.

I’m fine with it if they decrease the subscription fee to a quarter. Nobody I know has 4 TVs in their house. Charging for “4 screens” while enforcing this new policy is a simple cue to unsub Netflix for good.

There’s nothing unpopular about this. In fact this is the most popular opinion on HN.

Remind me when this company goes bankrupt with millions of investment down the drain

All the best! There are many _huge_ projects written in pure C. Don’t let people tell you C is bad for your project size.

What a nightmare. I would never own a Tesla even if I get it for free.

As someone who likes to keep in check what’s going on back home while being permanently away from it, I HATE how twitter trends are hijacked by political parties to shit on the other parties. There trends are purely dogshit and nothing more than memes. There is no value I get from the trending section. Anything important is lost in the noise. I tried to switch to Worldwide trends I remember twitter used to have but got rid of it for some reason.

Finally someone said it. Terms like “realtime” and “baremetal” are used in such vague manners that they have lost their original meaning.

These C-hating articles are getting out of hand on HN. I see atleast one every week on the front page. If you don't like C, STFU, pick-up whatever FOTM BS you like, GTFO of here, and leave us "normies" alone who have to get actual stuff done which absolutely requires C.

Test

C++ has all the problems that come with C plus all of its own problems. Also, OOP is pointless.

C, GDB, an mcu dev kit, a Jlink probe, and an oscilloscope :)

Yeah it’s not like the browser you are using, the OS you have installed, or even the firmware of the keyboard you’re typing this on is written in C.

> At this time, Rust is the only viable alternative to C and C++ in these domains.

No, it’s not. See Ada/Spark.

No, we can’t. Because C is a necessary evil. If you stop teaching people to program in C, who is going to maintain virtually every software this world is running on?

It’s a well known way of getting your post to HN frontpage.

Exactly. Just like “terrorism” is used as an excuse to take control of oil fields.

> The underlying thing to appreciate here is that the goal is to make these kinds of mistakes not only much harder but impossible

Hate to break it to you, but it is not "impossible" to have CVEs in Rust [1].

1. https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=rust

I think a simple “const” would have also done the trick. Sometimes -O3 is clever enough to figure out that the value is never written, so it makes it an asm constant.

I, on the other hand, appreciate Safari not being an utter resource-hog and a battery drainer. I don't need all these shiny features. I'm ok with "dumbed down" static sites.

Not exactly what you asked, but a few squats, just once per day, really help with blood circulation to legs. Not having enough blood circulation results in leg discomfort no matter how comfortable your chair is.

People need to stop assuming that memory safety == functional safety. They are two very different things. Rust ensures memory safety, but it won't stop you from making logical mistakes. You can't be "sure about correctness" unless proven mathematically.