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Walmart had a similar recall last year for their Ozark Trail bottles. https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2025/Walmart-Recalls-Ozark-Trai...

This reminds me a lot of Jason Fried (of 37signals, now known as Basecamp)'s complaints about Get Satisfaction back in 2009.

Get Satisfaction, Or Else...

- article: https://signalvnoise.com/posts/1650-get-satisfaction-or-else

- discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=540540

Follow-up on "Get Satisfaction, Or Else..."

- article: https://signalvnoise.com/posts/1661-follow-up-on-get-satisfa...

- discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=543431

I've found my jobs' internal (social) message boards/mailing lists/Slack channels/etc to be great resources as the only contributors are those who work/worked at the company. Your (ex)coworkers presumably met/meet a certain competency bar and are less likely to spam. At larger companies there are message boards/mailing lists/Slack channels/etc for nearly every topic.

For local information, I've found forums for local sport teams to be great resources during the off season. Posters are often happy to engage in any sort of chat during the off season. Even if you haven't gotten to know the frequent posters during the sport's season you can use the (usually highly visible w/o any additional clicks) account age/# of posts/"karma" as a proxy of posters' trustworthiness. note: If you don't normally contribute on-topic (i.e., about the team and sport) posts, I would only search the forums for your questions and not post off-topic questions as that'll get you quickly banned.

This article relies heavily on findings by the Gottman Institute however the Gottman Institute's findings are suspect because they built their prediction models after the results are known and they never verified that their models hold up w/ additional data.

In machine learning parlance, it's equivalent to deriving a formula using training data and not checking if the formula is accurate w/ a validation data. I doubt many (anyone?) here would trust an autonomous car built w/ only training data and never tested w/ validation data. Similarly, I don't believe/trust the Gottman's prediction rate (94%) for a second.

More info: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2010/03/can_y... (2010)

Also posted earlier at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12208402 though no discussion there (yet?).

Even earlier HN posting of the same article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12208402

Thanks for the response! To make sure I understand this correctly: If I find a product labeled as "HEPA" (w/o a prefix or suffix such as "type," "like", "style," and "99%") then I can be assured that the product does meet the standard of removing 99.97% of particles that have a size of 0.3 µm?

Can you expand on this? It does look like there are HEPA specifications[0]. Are you saying that a product that doesn't meet those standards can still legally be labeled as HEPA? Yikes!

[0] E.G., http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2013/06/f1/doe-std-3020-2... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEPA#Specifications

Does the near-highway location of the house concern anyone else?

The correlation between near-highway air exposure and adverse health outcomes is well documented and I have not found a single study, article, etc that disputes the correlation. Below are three articles and snippets (emphasis mine) regarding the aforementioned correlation and how quickly the pollution levels drop over short distances from the freeway.

source: http://now.tufts.edu/articles/big-road-blues-pollution-highw... "Throughout the 1980s and early ’90s, dozens of studies found links between fine particulate pollution and cardiovascular health. One of the largest and most influential of these, the Harvard Six Cities Study, followed more than 8,000 participants in six towns across the Midwest and New England. Over 15 years, the initial phase of the study tracked each person’s health and measured particulate levels in the air over their communities. Its findings, first released in 1993, showed that even a minuscule increase in fine particulates (just 10 micrograms per cubic meter of air), could cause up to an 18 percent bump in cardiovascular disease." ... there’s reason to think that ultrafine particles, which the EPA does not regulate, are even more insidious than their larger counterparts ... ultrafines can fluctuate dramatically over the course of a morning or afternoon, depending on the weather and how many cars and trucks are on the road. Ultrafines are also confined to a relatively small area ... close to major highways, often spiking dramatically within a few hundred meters of the source."

source: http://www.scpcs.ucla.edu/news/Freeway.pdf "Studies conducted by SCPCS investigators here in LA show that carbon monoxide and ultrafine particles – the smallest portion of particulate matter emissions and potentially the most toxic – are extremely high on or near the freeway, dropping to about half that concentration 50-90 meters (~165-295 feet) from the freeway ..."

source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1971259/ "People living or otherwise spending substantial time within about 200 m of highways are exposed to these pollutants more so than persons living at a greater distance, even compared to living on busy urban streets. Evidence of the health hazards of these pollutants arises from studies that assess proximity to highways, actual exposure to the pollutants, or both. Taken as a whole, the health studies show elevated risk for development of asthma and reduced lung function in children who live near major highways. Studies of particulate matter (PM) that show associations with cardiac and pulmonary mortality also appear to indicate increasing risk as smaller geographic areas are studied, suggesting localized sources that likely include major highways. Although less work has tested the association between lung cancer and highways, the existing studies suggest an association as well. While the evidence is substantial for a link between near-highway exposures and adverse health outcomes, considerable work remains to understand the exact nature and magnitude of the risks."

Here's a highly-rated detailed review that addresses the EcoSphere controversy. The author(s) appear to be very well informed. http://www.amazon.com/review/R39YUFJKTH4NEF/ref=cm_cr_dp_cmt...

The first part of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's essay reminds me of Paul Graham's "What You Can't Say" (http://paulgraham.com/say.html).

Fair enough.

For the interim what do you and Mellow recommend customers use for a "temperature-safe bag" (per instructions on your website)?

Thanks for the heads up, pcl.

I was already aware but it's a great point and one of the many reasons I try to limit how often I dine out.

Thanks for the reply zemvpferreira.

How are you planning to solve the concern of plastic leaching while maintaining the benefits of sous-vide?

Thanks for the reply tptacek!

I tracked down Dave Arnold's report to 9:28 here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cooking-issues-episode-1...

In summary: SC Johnson (SJC) told Grant Achatz and others chefs not to use their bags for sous-vide so Dave Arnold contacted SJC and asked specifically about using the bags for sous-vide and explained why he believes the practice is safe. The SJC representative replied with "Ziplock brand bags are designed to withheld being held in high temperature water including being used up to 82 degree Celsius for up to 72 hours." (quote at 12:05 of podcast)

I'd feel better if there was a specific statement about the safety of the food being held in the bag rather than an implication that since the bags withstand the bath the food isn't tainted.

What temperature-safe bags are out there?

I did some digging into this a few months ago and couldn't find anything conclusive. All I found were blogs, quotes, etc by wannabe scientists.

Of note:

• http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3222987/

Nearly all plastics (even the BPA-free ones) leach estrogenic activity chemicals

• http://pprc.org/index.php/2013/networking/p2-rapid/do-plasti...

Basically said that there is little evidence in either direction

• http://www.codlo.com/faq.html#.Ux5Ly-ddWlg and http://www.chow.com/food-news/107898/cooking-sous-vide-in-pl... and http://www.sfgate.com/food/article/Author-says-use-of-plasti...

Says that bags made from polyethylene (PE) are safe while bags made from polyvinyl chloride (PVC) are not.

• http://www.beyondsalmon.com/2010/08/cooking-in-plastic-how-s...

SC Johnson (Ziplock manufacturer) themselves do not recommend cooking w/ their bags. Note their bags are made w/ the supposedly safe (per the links in the previous bullet) polyethylene (PE)

Right now I'm very intrigued by sous-vide but am too paranoid about the plastics to make the jump.

A bit pedantic but Warren Nyerges and his wife, Maureen Collier did not buy out the bank building and force the bank out of it.

Nyerges and Collier won, in court, reimbursement for their attorney fees and then had sheriff enforce the ruling who then proceeded with a foreclosure (which was on the furniture and not on the building).

Glad you're also excited!

You can currently use the app on your desktop browser using the same url (https://app.workshopcafe.com) and get the same feature set as you get on your phone (Except for things that require a phone like calling or texting in orders). No need to switch from your laptop!