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As I said, my password has not been used anywhere else. haveibeenpwned.com comes back empty for it.

Can you provide a link to that listing?

I am always looking for apartments with a view so I would like to see how booking one can go so wrong.

    I'm confused what you are trying to build here.

A site that gives you a list of apartments with a view for every major city.

Interesting. I wonder what those "checked for 100+ things that guests told us they love" are.

Shouldn't the general quality of the listing already be apparent from the ratings?

I'm always looking for apartments with a view. That is why I am starting a startup that will help locate these:

https://nothingless.github.io/

I will also list if an apartment has a table. Because I need one to work with my laptop on it.

What are other HNers looking for in an apartment that is not easy to find via the standard filters?

So you first recursively read the code and the code of all the dependencies? And then pin it?

That sounds like a lot of work. Compared to copying/writing 30 lines.

How do you know the pinned version and it's dependencies do not get changed by the maintainers?

It's not about auditing every line of code. It's about a chain of trust.

I can not imagine that the security of Facebooks servers is at the mercy of a chain of anonymous coders.

That sounds scary. That means the security of your system and data is at the mercy of all those maintainers?

I can't imagine any big companies work like that. Execute code on their servers which is under the control of 'somebody from the internet'.

    what's the better way to do it
    copy & paste, or use a package manager 

When you add a dependency, how do you prevent the maintainer of the dependency or any sub- or sub-sub-...dependency to break your system in the future?

Yup. That's why I'll give them a list. So they can chose between the tower and the trees.

Is the direction important to you? Personally, I just want to be able to look over the city. And not have another house in front of me.

At first I will simply go through all listings for each city manually. Looking at the photos and the reviews. And make a list of the ones with a view.

Thanks! The "One-Bedroom Apartment" here?

https://www.booking.com/hotel/ph/30-cd-twin-oaks-place.html

I wonder if one is guaranteed to get it with a view or it could happen that you book and end up in a lower floor?

My 'plan' is very simple. It's just a list of links for each city. No community features or anything. Just the links to apartments that I myself found. Features could be added later. But the initial idea is to just put a list of links online. Probably with a line 'If you know about an apartment with a great view you want to share, please send it to ...@...'.

If you like, let me know which apartment it is in Manila and I will happily add it :)

Great! I'm happy I did not completely disgruntle you and you still speak with me. I can be way too undiplomatic at times.

Small market + Hard problem sums up the responses here nicely. I like that! Because I'm not convinced the market is too small. And because I love hard problems!

I wonder what format I should use for my list so I can put it online easily... hmm... It would have to be one list for each city. Maybe I should put it all in one sqlite db and write a script that renders it to static pages, one page for each city?

    Right now it seems that all you want to
    hear is 'it's a great idea!'.

No! If there are counter arguments, I want to hear them!

The more replies I get without counter arguments that convince me, the more I get the feeling this actually might be a good idea. Because if everybody tries to discourage me and all the arguments are just 'feelings' then maybe there are no hard facts that speak against it.

For example you said that you would steal the idea for apartments with long beds. This is an interesting argument. Because it made me compare Google trends for 'hotel with long bed' and 'hotel with view'. I also did that for 'hard floor' and all the other parameters you mentioned. And I saw that the demand for a view is by far the biggest.

    My advice to you: if you ask for an opinion
    you either say 'thank you'.

Thank you!

Would love to see your site. If you want to get in touch - I have put my email on my profile.

"this would narrow your market down too much"

How do you know? Can you quantify that somehow?

"people with specific apartment demands > number of people who want an apartment with a view"

The same could be said for every site. There is always a generalization that targets more people.

One essential advice for startups these days is that the initial target audience can very well be small. It's interesting to see that 'too small of a target audience' is the main counter argument in this discussion.

How big was the estimated target audience for AirBnBs original offering to house people on air mattresses?

True. Fixed. Thanks.

An example:

Imagine these two predictors:

    Reality: 1 1 1 1 1 9 1 1 1 1
    Predic1: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
    Predic2: 3 3 3 3 3 6 3 3 3 3

    SumOfErrors(Predic1) is 16
    SumOfErrors(Predic2) is 21

So Predic1 was better then Predic2? No. Because correctly predicting the one outlier shows more predictive power then staying close to the average. Therefore we use SumOfSquerrors:

    SumOfSquerrors(Predic1) is 58
    SumOfSquerrors(Predic2) is 45

This shows that Predic2 is "better" and we are happy :)

TLDR:

Because it gives more weight to one big error then to multiple small ones with the same sum.

We want the errors to be noise and not systematic. Noise usually has a gaussian distribution. And in a gaussian distribution multiple small values are more likely than one big one.

Can you quantify the small demand somehow?

Is an apartment with a view not something many people want?

When I look at r/digitalnomad, the top post right now is somebody showing of the view of their apartment.

Booking.com has a filter 'View'. So there must be some demand, right? The filter just does not work. When I look at apartments with a view in Bangkok the first 3 they show me are:

https://www.booking.com/hotel/th/bangkokshortstay-3br-sukhum...

https://www.booking.com/hotel/th/aspira-parc-39.html

https://www.booking.com/hotel/th/ekkamai-prestige.html

None of these are what I mean with an apartment with a view. Some are just hotel rooms. Some seem to not have a view.

I never use browser extensions because of the security and privacy problems.

When you say 'most other users' - can you quantify that? If for example 99% of the world population does not care, that would still leave me with 76 million people who do care.

I understood that.

But as I said, it's a misunderstanding. I am not thinking about a generalization. I am thinking about a site that lists apartments with a view. That's it. I wonder if that has enough merits to become a startup.

This is a misunderstanding. I would not gather data about bed size or shower type. All I want to do is assemble a list of top floor apartments with a view.

"Any user can simply opt out by unchecking the box"

They should at least do it the other way round and have people opt in instead of opt out. Still I would prefer a distro that does not have such functionality in the first place.

Since Ubuntu did their first "phone home" experiments in 2015, I stayed away from it. And I will keep it that way. It was just too much of a user hostile action. Shuttleworth even defended it. Showed me that his values are not compatible with mine.

Linux Mint has been a very user friendly replacement so far.

I would just do what I already do. Look carefully at each apartment to see if it could have a nice view. I judge it by the photos, the description, customer reviews and Google street view.

Only apartments that might have a nice view go into my list.

I wonder if anybody else is interested in that list and if it would make an interesting website.

"nobody can destroy or seize your coins"

"keeping your investment safe is not simple"

Hmm...

Maybe your are right and it's something they don't talk about. But maybe we, the users, can have a discussion about it.

I mailed them the last time I posted something. They unblocked the post then. But it feels a bit cumbersome to go that route every time.