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fishermanbill on Thursday February 20, 2025 @07:09AM
from the self-post dept.
The time is 2035 and you are sitting in a room with two robots. You ask one of the robots if they can help you with a nuclear fusion problem you have. The robot says sure thing, hit me with it. After a few minutes of discussion, you finish. Then the robot turns to the other robot and speaks in a single burst of noise to the other robot. At the same time the other robot speaks back to the...
Does all this shader really get around is the problem of display inversion?
From Gemini: "Display inversion is the process of alternating the voltage between positive and negative for each pixel on an LCD screen to prevent damage. This process is called polarity inversion."
If display manufacturers knocked that on the head for certain scenarios then surely we could just have a simple block of horizontal screen scrolling down the display at high refresh rates?
Phosphor fall off as far as can be seen in Slo Mo Guys is quite a small effect not on the scale of this shader.
We need display manufacturers to provide a refresh cycle that is agnostic of the incoming signal hz sent down the cable AND to either provide shader support (ideally) at the displays hz OR to implement this shader.
There really is no need for an expensive RetroTink if we had this. Some manufacturer must be able to do it and the rest would follow.
Yeah they are two different effects. Theres motion blur on individual objects that you want (as human eyes see/have) then there is full screen motion blur that is due to the display technology (lcd,oled etc) that you dont want (as human eyes dont see/have). CRTs dont have this motion blur as the screen is blank most of the time - see slo mo guys on youtube for crt displays.
Not sure this really holds: there is no symbolic LEAN type system in any animal brain as far as I can tell. I do think the point about the AI needs to sanity check is right. I imagine all this is will fall out from the visual, audio and other senses feedback loops though. I dont see the fundamentals needing explicit algebraic reasoning - that will surely come later.
But there is an insidiousness to Meta calling their software 'open source'. It feels as if they are riding on the coat tails of the term as if they are being altruistic, when in fact they are being no more altruistic than any large corporation that wants to capture market share via their financial muscle - which I suppose touches on your last point.
So do video game developers (provide source code to modify their games) the analogy absolutely works. I can list a huge amount of actually open source software that I can see the source code and data for which is very different from Llama etc.
Its not open source.
We don't get the data or training code. The small runtime framework is open source but that's of little use as its largely fixed in implementation due to the weights. Yes we can fine tune but that is akin to modifying video games - we can do it but there's only so much you can do within reasonable effort and no one would call most video games 'open source'*.
Its freeware and Meta's strategy is much more akin to the strategy Microsoft used with Internet Explorer to capture the web browser market. No one was saying god bless Microsoft for trying to capture the browser market with I.E. Nothing wrong with Meta's strategy just don't call it open source.
*weights are data and so is the video/audio output of a video game. If we gave away that video game output for free we wouldn't call the video game open source as the myriad freeware games essentially do.
Yes its "freeware" or any one of the similar terms we've used to refer to free software.
Its not open source. Your definition would make most video games open source - we modify them all the time. The small runtime framework IS open source but that's not much benefit as you cant really modify it hugely because the weights fix it to an implementation.
I keep hearing about Twilio but what is it?
Game asset packages - all game assets are read only and need to be compressed and nowadays with SSD's you don't want duplication.
Just to clarify that last statement (and something to think about) with HDD's you want duplicate assets so that you don't cause seeks which are VERY slow on 5400rpm HDD's still found on some/alot of systems.
Why is it you think most major programs are built using C++? Most OS's, most drivers, most browsers, most games, most major applications, most compilers, most servers etc etc.
That is a really weird analogy. Using extreme scenarios to argue your point is never going to put you on a strong footing.
Anyway for most systems deployed the customer usually wants to maintain a business using it. If the system constantly falls over, cant be readily changed etc etc that is going to cost the customers business compared to its competitors.
Add that a lot of developers work for the same company as the customer and that is just as much the developers responsibility.
99.999% of bridges built would be expected to hold up 10 years later and require minimal maintenance. I'd wager all bridges even temporary army ones would be expected to not unforeseeably fail. See the Morandi Bridge tragedy.
No it wasn't OK when Softbank bought them, I vehemently disagreed with the sale then, as this was the next step after Softbank acquired them.
Although I dont agree with selling to Softbank at least they didn't have a dog in the game. What is bad about Nvidia is that they have a dog in the (chip) game. A major reason you went to ARM was for a non biased design team - you knew you were getting their best if you paid for it. Now I'm afraid you don't.
Also my comment is not anti US, it just so happens that the US has all the big tech companies and foolishly the European countries, especially the UK believes it can compete in a level playing field with the US even though the US's GDP is about 9 times bigger than the UK's - god knows how much bigger its equities markets are.
At the EU level the US is not but then this kind of stuff isn't decided about at the EU level - maybe it should be, not that that will help the UK see the error in its ways after Christmas.
As for emotional reaction with the greatest of respect did you read your message before you posted it?
Yes the US is all about protectionism, same goes for China, same goes for the EU (also note my use of Europe, EU != Europe). Hence why all three major trade blocks dont have complete free trade deals setup between them (not that comment has anything to do with free trade deals - at least not primarily).
Ultimately free trade is where the world would like to get to purely from an economic basis but you have to do that in tandem with the rest of the world. If you go first everybody else has a economic advantage over you as possibly the UK will find out after Brexit actually happens. Also politics gets in the way of the world achieving full free trade. Some gov will always want votes by protecting an industry - like the UK's fishing industry for instance.
Just to be clear my statement has nothing to do the 'EU' which is largely a trade body. I specifically used the term 'Europe' and 'free markets' not 'free trade'. This has nothing to do with Brexit to avoid confusion.
lol yes and in the next line you see I used 'bought' just a simple typo.
Absolutely. The only bit I don't agree with is that tech isn't everything - to all intense and purposes it is (at this point in time).
I'm a game rendering engineer that uses Unreal (and used Renderware) so I know a little about this subject.
If Renderware hadn't been brought by EA (and hence controlled by your competitor), the rest of the industry would probably have kept using Renderware as it was the best option and development would have continued. It would have been built on to deliver next gen experiences.
It mirrors pretty much perfectly what is wrong with the ARM Nvidia deal.
Nokia yes wasn't doing well in the smart phone sector but was doing excellently in the feature phone sector. Hence why HMD Global is now doing very well selling those handsets.
Tech sadly is everything hence why it dominates the stock market. Information is the new oil and all that. Its much more than purely economic, whoever controls the tech controls those who use the tech. Hence why China has created its own tech companies - they arent stupid.
I think you're also getting mixed up between 'free-trade' and 'free-markets'. Free trade is about trade deals: NAFTA, WTO, EU, CPTPP, Mercour or whatever trade grouping you want - generally to do with the removal of taxes and standardisation of goods between countries.
Free markets on the other hand is do with the liberalisation of markets i.e removing government intervention (as much as possible) i.e regulations and restrictions of buying and selling of stuff - in this case companies (which can be covered in a trade deal admittedly)
What I'm advocating is that British gov (and most European gov's) restricts the selling of their tech companies based purely on the importance of the tech company.
Why?
Because as I say its do to with control. We're not able to make democratic, sovereign decisions when the fabric of how most things are done is controlled completely by someone else.
When will Europe realise that there is no second place when it comes to a market - the larger player will always eventually end up owning everything.
I can not put into words how furious I am at the UK's Conservative party for not protecting our last great tech company.
Europe has been fooled into the USA's ultra free market system (which works brilliantly for the US but is terrible for everybody else). As such American tech companies have brought EVERYTHING and eventually moth balled them.
Take Renderware it was the leading game engine of the PS2 era consoles, brought by EA and mothballed. Nokia is another great example brought by Microsoft and mothballed.
Imagination Technologies was slightly different in that it wasn't bought but Apple essentially mothballed them. Now ARM will undoubtedly be the next via an intermediate buyout.
You look across Europe and there is nothing. Deepmind could have been a great European tech company - it just needed the right investment.
A system failed not the ‘elites’. This was a referendum we should never have had. This was a referendum that was badly executed. This was a referendum whose result was impossible to achieve. This is a disaster of a modern democracy.
Never have a referendum that doesn’t explain in detail how to achieve either result. If you can’t explain how to achieve the results then it’s not a matter that is appropriate for a referendum. Brexit falls squarely in the latter camp.