f_nachos

> this is sort of obviously not true... I mean the "for most people" part.

> I think it probably isn't good advocacy

That's pretty strong, can you at least explain why you think that?

I don't think you're making the case for the safety of consuming alcohol. One could argue you were actually making the opposite case.

If you're implying that I am overestimating risk by comparing it to barbecued meat and exposure to vehicle exhaust then I would say that maybe you're underestimating risk from those two things.

I personally avoid barbecued meat for that exact reason, as well as refrain as much as possible from huffing exhaust fumes. If a lifestyle that allowed me to avoid being near cars were reasonably easy to achieve I would choose it. Because as you say, car exhaust is neurotoxic and carcinogenic.

Alcohol is known by medical science to be

- neurotoxic.

- carcinogenic.

If that's not persuasive, I don't know what else could be.

Because it's magical thinking to believe that the harm caused by the consequences of your actions is ameliorated by your intentions beforehand or your apology afterward. A civilization built on Protestantism wouldn't be less superstitious for holding these as cultural values. Which is where I guess the cult part comes in.