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"Because the Perl one did not run on Mac easily and I wanted to see how it would handle" Did you try creating a VM on your Mac and doing it that way?

"how much effort it would require of me" I'm pretty sure it was minimal effort.

"The goal was for me to learn how the Ai behaves in this kind of task on something I though was fun and more people can play around with if they like."

It sounds more like you wanted to sabotage their project or take it over. Were you expecting people to start contributing to your version instead of theirs?

This AI Hysteria is getting out of hand.

Andy Grove's ideas were terrible, just look at the state of Intel. Firing 10% of your workforce every year only creates a hostile work environment for your employees.

People start worrying less about doing their job and more about managing the risk of being selected for elimination.

Why? To waste more AI resources? Because it's Rust?

I just installed the original on Fedora, it works fine.

Maybe it's just me, but "How much we ship per engineer" doesn't seem like the correct metric to track.

If that's the benchmark, developers are incentivized to produce over-engineered and bloated code.

No Thanks. I'm with Aristotle on this one--"democracy" is the deviant, self-interested rule of the poor majority.

Lula and PT launder PCC and Comando Vermelho money, who's the real gangster? Brazil needs safety for it's citizens, not more leftist BS.

I think the worst part is having Management and Business types telling us how to do Software Engineering, and then firing everyone when their ideas don't work.

Borland Turbo C was a delight! They don't make 'em like that anymore.

Have they really? This seems more like marketing hype.

It's a trick question: Lemmy is God.

Rusty Shackelford :D

Whether you like Rust or not, it's questionable as to why Canonical would push this so much and do it in such a cavalier way.

Will this really make coreutils more secure? I doubt it, if anything there will be a river of new bugs.

So, again, why are they pushing Rust so much? Having Microsoft make Rust a 'Tier-1' language also doesn't bode well.

"You're coming at this with negative assumptions" not so much negative as skeptical. Everyone is pushing Rust and full rewrites, I'm still not convinced.

"But either way I'm not volunteering, it's much easier to start fresh than try to carve out and replace the entire guts of this old thing."

Fair enough :D

Jack Welch's legacy

"...it doesn't do any real work in parallel." I think this is the biggest selling point.

Although, "with GNU ld you might have to wait several minutes of link time on every dev build." Meh, I might prefer to wait a few minutes and stick with something I know works.

"The creator of mold is also the original creator of LLVM lld" That's cool, why not implement these features in LLVM lld? Why not implement them in GNU ld? Is it a gatekeeping thing? Parallel ld would be very useful.

Also, why Rust?

"We are rewriting the mold linker in Rust and adding linker script support so that mold can link essentially anything GNU ld can, including kernels and embedded programs."

Legitimate question, why not just use GNU ld? Does link time take so long that it requires a complete rewrite?

"I think this is long overdue, given that many large programs have already adopted mold. It has been used in production for years."

That's not a good reason to replace GNU ld with mold, I'm still skeptical about rewriting EVERYTHING in Rust. What's the real reasoning? Who's pushing this so much?

Yay, I guess? It's impressive that AI can build something like this, but do you really understand how all the components work?

AI is really good an taking what we already know and producing something that works, but what about new innovations?

With all that said, this is still pretty cool.

"If we want more systems software to benefit from memory safety, we need better ways to reduce the cost and risk of migration."

What about using CHERI or Memory Tagging? Rewriting an established and mature codebase seems like the wrong approach.

This seems less like "We want to prevent memory errors." and more like "We hate C, we want Rust."

I can image the moment Sir William Jones realized Sanskrit and Latin had a common origin. "Wait a minute...these can't all be coincidences." It's pretty mid-blowing.

Even Computer Science graduates are having a hard time.

"Is That a Bad Thing?"

Is that a serious question? During the great Depression 48% of young adults were living with their parents.

Thankless? People are straight up hostile!

This used to be called "Programming by Coincidence".

"As AI agents transition from simple coding assistants to end-to-end engineers"

What a hype!

"AI models are rapidly getting better." How many times are we going to keep hearing this? Give the horse the dang carrot!

I'm so tired of hearing about AI.