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Re:Unexpected Anti-Patterns for Engineering Leaders on Thursday May 30, 2024 @06:36PM (#40529519)
The presumption here is that engineering leadership is the best source of intelligence and ideas. That now you are in a leadership role, you have a megaphone, so use it. This is a terrible, terrible practice.

If you truly do have the best knowledge, build support for your ideas through dialogue. Make engineers and other leaders feel like they own the idea.

Good managers build consensus. Good ideas build their own momentum. Bad managers use the megaphone, and push their ideas by avoiding dialogue. Even if their ideas are implemented through micromanagement/force of will, they do not stick, because no one else feels ownership.

Larson seems to think that engineering excellence from ICs is synonymous with doing what your manager tells you without question.

Re:Unexpected Anti-Patterns for Engineering Leaders on Thursday May 30, 2024 @05:56PM (#40529164)
Yes! I suggest starting with https://pragprog.com/titles/rjnsd/the-nature-of-software-dev...

"The Nature of Software Development", by Ron Jeffries. Focus on incremental value, engage everyone, deliver and adjust.

Re:Unexpected Anti-Patterns for Engineering Leaders on Thursday May 30, 2024 @05:54PM (#40529148)
You are hired to bring in your context and personality and experience. Do not fall in the same traps the org has been in. If they didn't need help and change, you would not have been hired.
Re:Unexpected Anti-Patterns for Engineering Leaders on Thursday May 30, 2024 @05:53PM (#40529132)
Micromanagement is what managers do who don't trust their teams or feel threatened by their engineers. If you are a former engineer in management, remember what it feels like to be micromanaged. You are not a manager because you were/are still a great engineer. If you are- your org is broken and the wrong people are in management.
Re:Unexpected Anti-Patterns for Engineering Leaders on Thursday May 30, 2024 @05:51PM (#40529110)
"Holly fuck balls this is all bullshit." TOTALLY. Never seen someone so wrong be so celebrated. This guy makes horrid engineering orgs.
Re:Unexpected Anti-Patterns for Engineering Leaders on Thursday May 30, 2024 @05:46PM (#40529067)
I have seen Will Larson's techniques applied/ forced in multiple organizations and have found that his view of the engineering world just does not work. I sense that there is a cult of personality around him that leads to engineering ivory towers.

Most orgs that I've seen follow his writing or ideas have ended up in conflict with the business and one another, isolated on a corporate island, and then gutted by layoffs.

I don't like to throw an author/engineer under the bus but I do not know why this guy has a following. I have never seen his methods result in happy engineers and delivered value.

My summary of this article (for managers): 1. Micromanage early and often 2. Measure, and whatever you're measuring, act like it's truth and that you know best. 3. Listen to the curmudgeons and the naysayers because they are the true sources of knowledge.

Edit- as I mention in a reply, try https://pragprog.com/titles/rjnsd/the-nature-of-software-dev... Ron Jeffries' "The Nature of Software Development". Incremental value, engineers leading delivery, constant feedback cycles, flexibility. I've followed the tenets of this book in many orgs, and they lead to measurable value, happy engineers, and successful orgs.

Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (May 2024) on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @02:28PM (#40227241)
Always looking for an advantage, those Astros. Trash-can banging experience a plus.
Re:Our Company Is Doing So Well That You're All Fired on Thursday February 22, 2024 @03:21PM (#39472589)
Pay salaries, or pay taxes. The society that enables a for-profit company to succeed is not free for the taking. Do your part.

Engineers, are you ready to organize yet?

Throughout the early 2000s, and before, engineers have resisted efforts to organize. Usually this resistance was framed in either libertarian ideology, or with the shared hallucination that tech is a meritocracy and therefore engineers would get paid what they're worth.After record profits in 2023, we're seeing here in early 2024 that big tech loves the taste they got last year and they're now...

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