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I actually think there's a very big market for it tbh. A lot of teams building agents are struggling with this today, especially in legal, finance, pharma and government. It's also a much deeper problem than most people realize, even for tool builders, and it really requires working backwards from the experience an agent should have.
Vespper is our take on what that should look like.
Either way, it's exciting to see more people building in this space. Agents definitely need better ways to work with Office docs.
I agree privacy matters a lot. Because of that, we offer zero-data retention for teams, and there's also a self-hosted option if you want everything running in your own cloud.
For example, you could keep python-docx for the easy stuff and fall back to a Vespper-based approach when your agent hits errors filling the document. However, the end goal is to completely free your agent from python-docx and low-level work, so it can just focus on what goes into the template.
Where I think it can break (and we show some of that in the benchmark post, though not on EigenPal specifically) is on tricky document edits, like multi-turn track changes, implicit style understanding (respecting surrounding styles without being told to), advanced list manipulation, etc. We also saw these problems get amplified on long-horizon, challenging document workloads.
Eventually we realized no product out there truly handles the wide variety of cases agents run into, so we set out to build one.
So to answer your question, it depends. If your documents are simple and you're happy with the results, stick with what works. But if you have tricky documents and find yourself chasing the N-th edge case, I think delegating that to something like our product makes sense.
After working on that for a while, we've decided to shift focus and work on the DOCX angle. We felt there's a big opportunity here since .docx is such a widely used format.
As to the feature complete point - I agree. We already cover the most common features today (paragraphs, lists, tables, tracked changes, header/footer) and we're working hard on implementing more. Our main focus right now is to be the most accurate, cheapest and fastest solution out there for common scenarios.
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* As someone said, it'd be cool if you could render what I'm saying and add a loading indicator for the LLM. It'd improve the UX a bit.
* As someone mentioned, you can try to generate images to make the story more "real". This could be fun.
* You can also try to generate more realistic and drammatic sounds, and make the DM sound more theatrical. I'm not sure if that's easy but might be a big improvement. Bonus - maybe it'd be fun to choose a famous voice, like morgan freeman or anthony hopkins.
* It'd be cool if that could save my adventure. Right now, it is restarted everytime I leave the page.
Did you search tools that are cheaper than DD?
About privacy policy, so right now the main way to use the tool is to self-host the open source version. All of the data will stay in your environment. We plan on rolling out our Pro & Enterprise plans in the upcoming weeks/months and to create a more mature privacy policy. I hope that answer your question!
Regarding how it'd benefit support engineers - can you please elaborate a bit? Which areas do you think can be improved? Would love to hear your feedback.