dan-jackson

thanks that's great feedback.

found a 1991 saab 900 turbo for you:

https://driverbase.com/vehicle/9330472/1991-saab-900-in-hins...

Good morning HN,

I know we need to dramatically improve our vehicle listing page template experience as our startup shifts from beta to general release.

Its a top page on our site and we are now up to 750,000 cars listed for sale so search and filtering is becoming even more important.

Please help us shred this page w/ any negative feedback.

We are working on an update and greatly appreciate feedback from HN.

Many thanks.

Dan Jackson CEO Driverbase [email protected]

1. find the right business partners

2. launch before its ready

3. getting our value proposition down to one sentence for each user type

4. seo instead of vanity marketing

5. freemium model instead of free or paid

6. listening to customer feedback

7. deliver tangible results to paid customers before fundraising

8. "do things that don't scale" to compete with large competitors who are focused on IRR and monetization

THANK YOU this helps.

awesome.

This summer dealers have regularly been offering more than the traditional trade values. 1-2 year old used cars are even selling above MSRP when the vehicle was new.

This is due to the new car supply shortage which is one of the reasons used car pricing is (temporarily) cranked up. Agree worth is based on actual sell price vs. listings and valuation can't solely be based on listings. The challenge is right now many vehicles are selling at list price or above (but starting to cool off in the last few weeks).

In the past few months dealers have been making record revenue and profits in this sellers market by holding firm on asking price and negotiating less especially when they have added online purchase tools to their websites that use a one price model (eg you can't negotiate).

Our valuations are a work in progress but they already do leverage several variables tied to the overall market & supply so when used car prices normalize our valuations will adjust accordingly (and to your point lots of people who bought this summer could be underwater on their used cars a few years down the road).

Understood. Will fix this trim issue. Thanks for testing!

agreed.

good feedback. thanks!

awesome.

2 toyotas? you are rich!

here is a 2004 listed 3 days ago for $9k: https://driverbase.com/vehicle/8784108/2004-toyota-sienna-in...

or a 2003 for $5,795 and its getting a lot of views: https://driverbase.com/vehicle/7869797/2003-toyota-sienna-in...

interesting there seems to be a lot more 2004 siennas than with a 2003 model year.

here is a 2006 toyota corolla that listed 4 days ago for $12K: https://driverbase.com/vehicle/8768002/2006-toyota-corolla-i...

appreciate the input. we have several products focused on vehicle discovery and purchase but wanted to help drivers leverage the sellers market especially for extra vehicles that don't have to be replaced since it's not the best time to buy a replacement car.

we will fix the trim issue and block dealership entered trims from showing alongside our standardized trims (which makes it impossible to find the "right" one)

ah yes the tacoma... awesome.

check out this 1999 tacoma base for $14K with 186K miles: https://driverbase.com/vehicle/7901072/1999-toyota-tacoma-in...

or this 2000 tacoma for $9K with 319,945 miles! https://driverbase.com/vehicle/8802783/2000-toyota-tacoma-in...

you have one of the lowest mileage 1999 tacomas in the usa right now. congratulations.

even this 2001 tacoma was just listed yesterday for $10K... it looks like its been running the baja 1000 for decades: https://driverbase.com/vehicle/8804882/2001-toyota-tacoma-in...

we are adding a better warning when we can't provide a valuation and also improving our fallback logic to prevent this outcome entirely. thanks for sharing.

good find randompwd! yes that job posting is old feels like 20 years ago.

we already launched a vehicle recommendation engine (https://driverbase.com/recommendation/step1) and a marketplace that is now almost up to 1 million vehicle listings without webscraping (https://driverbase.com/inventory).

this sell my car feature is new... we just launched it last week and it is definitely a work in progress: https://driverbase.com/company/update-v5681/

as you can see in this thread we take user feedback very seriously and have been actively making improvements.

cool. thank you for trying it out.

in our next update we will be improving trim support and adding condition specific values.

we pushed out this initial version that collects this information but we are finding some specific trims don't have enough data yet so we fallback to a year make model zip code estimate.

i have seen both cases where trim provides a more specific price but also where we don't have enough trim specific information yet and we have to ignore trim.

condition will be factored in in our next update but we are hearing from our dealership customers that they want some more details on "condition" including damage.

one of the reasons we initially had VIN in the user flow is because we can generate a lot of vehicle condition/history information in the background and not have to require a user enter vehicle history manually however collecting VIN was clearly a deal breaker especially for privacy focused communities like hacker news.

thanks for testing this out!

will do some more testing having a hard time replicating did this happen on an ipad pro? thank you.

nice catch. we will add a more friendly message and improve our fallback logic if we cant provide a specific valuation for your vehicle maybe show a range. the XKR is legit... don't sell!