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A given company or enterprise does not have to vibe code all this, they just need to make the 10 features with the SLA they actually care about, directly driven off the systems they care about integrating with. And that new, tight, piece of software ends up being much more fit for purpose with full control of new features given to company deploying it. While this was always the case (buy vs build), AI changes the CapEx/OpEX for the build case.
I've had some moments recently for my own projects as I worked through some bottle necks where I took a whole section of a project and said "rewrite in rust" to Claude and had massive speedups with a 0 shot rewrite, most recently some video recovery programs, but I then had an output product I wouldn't feel comfortable vouching for outside of my homelab setup.
https://github.com/TencentARC/StereoCrafter https://github.com/TencentARC/GeometryCrafter
This assumes your adding documentation, tests, instructions, and other scaffolding along the way, of course.
MCP servers can expose tools that are agents, but don't have to, and usually don't.
That being said, I can't say I've come across an actual implementation of a2a outside of press releases...
Essentials for getting the most from Coding Agents
It seems like you're pointing out a consequence, not a counter argument.
But it's 100% the same class of tool and the awesome part of the unixy model is hopefully agents can be substituted in for each other in your pipeline for whichever one is better for the usecase, just like models are interoperable.
I bias a bit to wanting the agent to be a pluggable component into a flow I own, rather than a platform in a box.
It'll be interesting to see where the different value props/use cases of a Delvin/v0 vs a Codex Cloud vs Claude Code/Codex CLI vs Cursor land.
I understand the craft of code itself is what some people love though!
The "golden" end state of coding agents is that you give it a Feature Request (EG Jira ticket), and it gives you a PR to review and give feedback on. Cursor, windsurf, etc, are dead ends in that sense as they are local editors, and can not be in CI.
If you are tooling your codebase for optimal AI usage (Rules, MCP, etc), you should target a technology that can bridge the gap to headless usage. The fact Claude Code can trivially be used as part of automation through the tools means it's now the default way I thinking about coding agents (Codex, the npm package, is the same).
Disclaimer, I focus on helping companies tool their codebases for optimal agent usage, so I might have a bias here to easily configurable tools.
I literally have not written a line of code. The AI agent configures the build systems. It executes the `go install` command. It configures the infrastructure via terraform.
It takes a lot of reading of the code that's generated to see what I agree with or not, and redirecting refactorings. Understanding how to describe problem statements that are translated into design docs that are translated into task lists. It's still a lot of knowledge work on how to build software. But now I can do the coding that might have taken a day from those plans in 20 minutes.
Regarding startups, there's nothing here I'm doing that isn't just learning the tools of agentic coding. The business here might be advising people on how to do it themselves.
As I go through features, I'm comparing a matrix of Cursor, Cline, and Roo, with the various models.
While I'm still working on the final product, there's no doubt to me that Sonnet is the only model that works with these tools well enough to be Agentic (rather than single file work).
I'm really excited to now compare this 3.7 release and how good it is at avoiding some of the traps 3.5 can fall into.
Where great documentation was make or break for a open source project for the last 10 years, I think creating new projects with AI in mind will be required in the future. Maybe that means creating a large amount of examples, maybe it means providing fine tunes, maybe it means publishing a MCP server.
Maybe sad because it's another barrier to overcome, but the fact that AI coding is so powerful so quickly probably means it's worth the tradeoff, at least for now.
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AI Rekindled My Joy of Coding
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I started a data consultancy 2.5 years ago, and set up a lot of vendors and tools for my clients over time.I found a recurring theme: the best tools for them were often open source, but the overhead of deploying them was too high. Then 2 years down the road, they were paying 6 figures for vendors.Kubernetes Helm definitions have become a defacto standard for these projects to release...
While of course you can often get away with just a web with sqlite, pretty much any company of scale I've been at maintain those all as separate things, with separate search as the most optional.
What do you feel about the setup described seems overly complicated?
For deploying docker containers to production, and how to manage secrets, you'd need to look to that container orchestrator's recommendations. EG K8S secrets. It doesn't make too much sense to put an example of how to use production secrets in a docker guide, because those belong in a K8S/GKS/EKS/DO etc tutorial.
Docker's "interface" is how to accept env variables, it's other parts of the system that need to set those variables.