champagnepapi

“Coding is solved, bugs are not yet solved. Fix incoming”

This was said recently lolol

https://x.com/bcherny/status/2090649326032945591

I'm not saying that folks weren't doing that prior to generative AI! I'm saying that the rate at which this is being done is much greater than before.

People these days are saying “don’t look at the code”.

People are shipping all sorts of weird architectures, non-performance code, etc.

I wish that the ram scarcity would drive more performant software however I just think that the way people are shipping software currently will not lead to this

Agreed!

How does everyone feel about the “don’t read the code” stuff that folks are saying? I certainly do not support it but I’m curious to hear what other folks thoughts are

Same! We need a "Stop the Slop" movement or something like that.

No ethics left at OpenAi huh? Lolol

Ehhhhh it’s faster at typing code. Writing in a full agentic mode, we’ve only experienced slop.

I think the true cost will be some catastrophic failures.

Just hoping folks don’t get hurt due to people not understanding what they’re doing with these things but believing they’re competent.

I sure hope those docs aren’t written by LLMs for many reasons!

This! I don't think folks understand how easy it is to go from greenfield to brownfield with these tools, esp if your organization is only valuing velocity. Meaning your doing full agentic development on large features, barely reviewing any code, and shipping without much refinement. It's insane, but this appears to be the status quo in SF startups.

> I feel like that was the epitome of AI assisted but quality code

I totally agree with you on this! The engineer is still actively engaging while getting the performance gains of not having to type out functions. The Engineer is still in charge vs agentic "engineering" a model + harness can spit out whatever and the engineer is left to review tons and tons of code

Don't be a meat proxy! See this all over the place, it's very frustrating and i've advocated for stopping this practice at my company!

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49151933 - https://gruhn.me/blog/2026-08-03/

Agreed.

Personally, In SWE, i think the industry has made a grave mistake with the agents and we're just one big Catastrophe waiting to happen. I do think that there is very real value when software engineers use these tools as something akin to exoskeletons that allow the human to do more, rather than just fully replacing them. However, I'm finding more and more that companies are slop shops and just attempting to automate all of their software engineering. That will certainly end terribly. I hope we are not cannon fodder.

agreed. All of these are trying to get to something that can't really every be achieved with LLMs with is determinism. Folks are trying to constrain the models to behave in a certain way with all of these tools, but there's far too many edge cases for them to be reliable. Doesn't mean they can't add some value, but it seems very limited. Hoping it's only a matter of time before we go back to engineering and step back from "vibes".

lol I think you’re setting yourself up for failure. Why? Just because something works doesn’t necessarily know you the boundaries of it. What scale does it work for? Will it crumble under load in prod? It works but allows cross tenant access (security issue) because security checks weren’t in the location you thought… Dangerous!

Brother at my startup one person shipped 75k lines in two weeks. We’re living in the golden age of slop

So you're suggesting that coding will take more of the PRD phase?

this 100%. Skills are gained via effort. Not too much effort that it discourages you, but enough so it's a challenge and engages you. Ofc it helps to have wonderful teachers, coaches, mentors, books, even ai to help guide you, but YOU must put in the effort. You don't get something for nothing.

I wonder the same thing. I think we've already seen some of this happening, however the consequences haven't been large enough to the organization, for example:

- https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/20/meta-ai-a...

- https://tech.yahoo.com/articles/ai-code-wreaked-havoc-amazon...

- https://alexeyondata.substack.com/p/how-i-dropped-our-produc...

We can only hope that engineers working in safety critical systems haven't fallen to these working conditions.