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For those of you unfamiliar with Wool (which I'm assuming is most of you reading this), it's a distributed execution runtime for Python I've been working on that adds parallelism to Python's existing async primitives, allowing you to "await" CPU-bound logic without blocking the caller with a relatively simple service topology compared to some of the other distributed runtimes out there. Concerns like prioritization, queuing, and routing can be expressed in native Python, while Wool handles the inter-process/host transport.

This gist illustrates some of the trials and tribulations I went through while implementing a distributed context system for the runtime. Maybe some of you will find it (i.e., wool, the feature, or the lessons) useful, but in any case I enjoyed the process (I may be a masochist) and learned a lot.

I’m not sure why people are assuming I’m pushing for distributed OOP here. Wool is completely unopinionated about how you decide to architect your application - that’s the entire point.

So if you wanted to scale, say, a hyperparameter search across a cluster, what would you prefer?

I have a feeling people will begin to purposely use slightly incorrect grammar to give the impression they are indeed human in their writing.

Wasn’t previously aware of this opinion, but having read it, I can tell you I’m not actually committing this fallacy within the framework- I’m not forcing anyone into making their instance methods RPCs- I leave that up to my users. They are grown adults (presumably) and can commit whichever fallacies they desire.

Fair enough

I think LLMs are incredible tools that I will continue to use unapologetically, but I’m also very particular and not going to be putting my name to AI slop. Those are my genuine thoughts on the matter, they just happened to be cleaned up by an automated stochastic parrot.

Not on my watch

You mean the cadence where everything is presented in threes? Yeah I hate it too, but beats paying some blogger to do it

Sure, my argument is that those concerns should be composable with the distribution layer, not defined by it. There are plenty of different ways to pass data across a network or between machines, I'm not going to reinvent them all. There are also plenty of ways to manage non-transient errors (and very app-specific), I'm not going to implement them all. I'm also not assuming you need or want object persistence and replayability of your workflows. If you do, then use the right tool for the job.

I agree

Yeah but... who does that?

To be clear, not all of your coroutines become distributed. You explicitly declare what you want executed remotely, and you'll probably want your workers running in a VPC - it's just a nifty way of scaling your app horizontally without sinking too much effort into how you choose to define your distribution boundaries. It wouldn't be any different than scaling any other service horizontally using something like Kubernetes (which is probably how you'd manage wool workers as well).

But seriously, I just wanted to have an easy way to parallelize my projects without a bunch of slow, bloated, boilerplate ridden frameworks, and I'm having fun building it. And I must not be the only to have had this desire considering there's way more than one solution to this problem out there already, so f*k it.

Is it possible it's both?

I'm running this in a trusted environment, I'm not so ambitious as to try to make this some sort of whacky trustless distributed Python runtime. Just a fun project that's been marinating for a while, and now I have an army of clankers to do the dirty work of documenting and testing it.

I guess I'm not old enough.

For one, it's faster than prefect and ray so I can use it for more stuff without having to import a 10000000 line library.

I wouldn't say it abstracts the locking mechanisms away - if you need synchronization in your app, it's probably best to leave how that's achieved up to the user - what it does is make it possible to contain your business logic end-to-end in a single application/codebase without obfuscating it with distribution boundaries (e.g., calls out to other REST APIs or message queues). There are also still worker nodes to manager, BUT the architecture is much simpler in the sense that there are only workers to deal with - no control plane, scheduler, or other services involved.

Regarding failures - Wool workers are simple gRPC services under the hood, and connections are long-lived HTTP2 connections that persist for the life of the request. Worker-side failures simply manifest as Python exceptions on the client side, with the added nicety of preserving the FULL stack trace across worker boundaries (achieved with tbpickle). A core tenet of Wool is that it makes no assumptions about your workload - I leave it up to you to write a try-catch block and handle exceptions in a manner appropriate to your use case. The goal is to keep Wool as unopinionated about this sort of thing as possible.

I'm not sure about your specific needs, but I'm considering adding a simple CLI-based worker management tool for users that don't want or need a full service orchestrator like Kubernetes in their stack.

Thanks for the show hn tip btw

Out of the box, machine-local and LAN workers (via mDNS) are supported, and, yes, the local discovery protocol is effectively just multiprocessing with ser/des taken care of for you (with cloudpickle exclusively, for now). The nice thing is that async semantics are fully preserved, with coroutines and async generators being fully compatible (you can asend(), athrow(), and aclose() to your remote async generators, for example - to the caller it looks like vanilla Python).

Sorry, docs are lax at the moment, but the discovery subpackage has two modules, local.py and lan.py with the implementations. The discovery protocol is easily extensible - no inheritance required, just satisfy the protocol. You could implement a simple discovery publisher that publishes your worker addresses and a subscriber that knows where to look them up - the local implementation uses shared memory to register workers, for example, but it could be anything - a database, message queue, whatever you want.

I'm open to suggestions for a more ergonomic API if you have a specific use case in mind.