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US Gov saying it is unwilling to foot the bill for these non-citizens.

With these responses, and lack of discussion of "backup plans" for said DREAMers, these highly profitable multi-national corporations are saying the same thing.

Where is our collective outrage?

Your general trends and understandings are supporting redistributing resources from the children of citizens to illegal immigrants, because the illegal immigrants are near adulthood?

I did not argue a zero-sum game, this is a cooked book. There will always be losers until that is fixed, and this is more redistribution. At least according to my understanding of general trends.

As for the crime, it is the enforcement, not the act. You are arguing for not having a clear code of laws. I am arguing for the opposite, and for the revision of said laws as deemed necessary by the citizens. Without law, we cannot hold individual nor government accountable.

Re:How to spot a psychopath on Saturday September 02, 2017 @03:08PM (#15157669)
In case anyone else is wondering, this isn't generally available as an option. Yet.

MAPS has a goal of 2021 for prescription.

>MAPS is undertaking a roughly $25 million plan to make MDMA into a Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved prescription medicine by 2021.

http://www.maps.org/research/mdma

Re:Michael Dell Pledges $36M in Harvey Relief on Saturday September 02, 2017 @02:50PM (#15157574)
How much did you donate?
Sites that facilitate sex trade / crime are direct actions in the trafficking chain. It happens on the internet. No, the john doesn't come through the tubes, but his order does. Directly over the internet.

What was your example again? You keep referring to it, but I can't find it in the comments, which makes i thard to see how your point applies equally.

It is illegal precisely because it is damaging to the citizens of the country in which the person is entering.

> I think you're engaging in the typical hacker news out-of-context nit-pickery.

I think you dislike looking at your slippery slope.

>I am not suggesting that illegal immigrants do well because they are criminals. I suggest they do well because they make sensible, long-term choices to build themselves a better future,

At the expense of citizens.

>...and that people who want to do that and are willing to work hard within a society are a benefit to that society.

You are assuming that illegal immigrants will share both qualities, though the actions prove only one half of that.

No crime is a sensible investment, if you get caught.

>The evidence indicates otherwise. Non-criminals typically do better.

So illegal immigrants, criminals if you will, would do worse.

You have taken a crime, and made generalizations about the perpetrators, because at least a percentage of them 'mean well.' Would you at least agree that not every illegal immigrant has a desire to become a contributing part of the county they are entering?

You can order bullets on the internet.

Does this fall under the banner of 'use the internet to help kill people'? Your facetious post and response seem to imply that you had something more specific in mind, or perhaps something by a specific group.

So how do you feel about trespassing?
You don't have to shove a human into the internet tube to use the internet tube to help move the human.

Or do we want to ignore all of the sites facilitating prostitution, human trafficking's BFF?

Though I agree with your comments on the complexity and inherent difficulty of a merit-based system, it doesn't make a lot of sense to plop 'civil disobedience' in there.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civil

Illegal immigrants are not citizens.

Or were you talking about the coyotes with US citizenship? Most wouldn't call that civil disobedience.

Any crime can be flipped to show "positive" attributes of the perpetrator, usually to downplay the crime.

A skilled thief could be described exactly as you have described an illegal immigrant. Plans ahead, "invests" in their own future, able to "prosper" with minimal assistance from the state. (In fact, assistance is explicitly avoided at times, it would complicate matters...)

Taking this further down the absurdity rabbit-hole, one could even suggest that a non-criminal lacks the necessary traits to succeed - companies should show preferential treatment to criminals, or at least certain types of criminals. (Who decides this? Also, in before white collar criminals.)

A lot could be said about the positive attributes of serial killers, if we want to go hyperbolic.

Why would they have to stop working for Microsoft?

Microsoft is a large, multi-national corporation. What better way to say "We still support these people" than, where possible, helping to relocate them to an office in their country of origin? Not every country, or city, has a Microsoft office, but Microsoft isn't exclusively in Redmond, either.

This issue should not be simplified to "You have to go back." Even if it were, that would still leave a lot of creative solutions for how Microsoft (and other large, wealthy corporations) could take care of the employees they claim to care so much about, regardless of where they live.

If we're ignoring the law, why aren't you ignoring race?