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FWIW, I chased this demon early-days in my multi-agent orchestrated harnesses. you'll need a state machine. i used locally hosted temporal.io. it's a bit of a PITA to set up but it whips the llama's ass once it's running.
Vibe coding hardware. Nice.

Super cool idea, and I like the hierarchy view - looks like SolidWorks / OnShape, but your UI's pretty flaky; it keeps chasing the solution. If you could make that part more robust, it would be more fun. I did enjoy my "anthropomorphize a unicorn taking off in flight like Superman" model. Does ordering actually work, or is this still a test?

We're building in this space so I'll share what we've learned rather than what we sell.

The fundamental problem with Article 50 compliance isn't knowing the obligations — it's operationalizing them continuously. You can read Article 50 once and understand you need to: (1) notify users they're interacting with AI, (2) mark AI-generated content machine-readably, (3) disclose how decisions are made, and (4) maintain audit trails.

The hard part is proving you actually did all four, consistently, across every agent interaction, in a way a regulator can independently verify. Documentation gets stale the moment you deploy. Logs can be edited. Self-attestation is just a trust claim.

What we've found developers actually need:

    Fail-closed defaults. If your compliance check fails or times out, the agent shouldn't silently continue. That's the gap most teams miss.
    Machine-readable marking that's actually machine-readable. Not a disclaimer in the chat window — structured metadata a regulator's tooling can parse programmatically.
    Tamper-evident audit trails. Append-only, hash-chained, so you can prove nothing was deleted or reordered after the fact. This is the difference between "we logged it" and "we can prove we logged it."
    Cross-regulation awareness. If you're in fintech, DORA and AI Act overlap. If you handle personal data, GDPR and AI Act overlap. The compliance surface is the union, not the intersection.
The teams I've seen doing this well treat it as an engineering problem from day one — SDK presets, CI/CD integration, automated conformity checks — not a quarterly legal review.

157 days isn't a lot of runway.

Show HN: I applied Markowitz port. theory to agent teams / proved it in a zkVM

https://www.mnemom.ai/showcase

I run multi-agent teams in high-consequence scenarios. Read: fuckups at 3 AM = I'm awake.I kept hitting the same issue. I couldn't get a rules-based system to enforce behavior and I had no real way to prove that agents really did what they said they did. I can log and monitor them - set up (a million) Slack alerts but none of these things are PROOF. Logs are mutable. And that matters more every...

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Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Friday February 20, 2026 @06:30PM (#47095541)
Yah... how does this evolve... this is the big question. Honest answer? We'll see.

My opinion? Human-in-the-loop will get thinner over time. As that happens, the accountability chain has to thicken. If we want any notion of reliable trust, these scales have to balance. Note: I don't think this scales without it.

Broadly speaking (I've talked a lot about life in the post-rules universe), we (humans) stop signing actions and start signing policies - policies in this case are declarative envelopes of defined agent automation boundaries.

Couple this with a proof system that can (cryptographically) prove that the agent stayed between the lines.

Build on that... trust between agents becomes computable. If A trusts B, you have a derivable trust score (with ~ decay) and naturally Quorum models fall out of that.

Then you get to proof composition - essentially "instead of verifying /checkpoint you verify a proof for an entire session - the math guarantees nothing was skipped. Human only needs to see the summary.

All of this presumes the policy was correct to begin with. This approach isn't a substitute for "don't write sloppy policy or be an asshole."

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Thursday February 19, 2026 @10:47PM (#47083446)
Update: Just shipped cryptographic verification for the entire integrity pipe.

Checkpoints produce signed certs: SHA-256 input commitments + Ed25519 sigs + tamper-evident hash chain and Merkle inclusion proof. Mess with it and the math breaks.

Massive update to the interactive showcase to demo all of this running against live services: https://www.mnemom.ai/showcase <-- all features interactive - no BS.

This is the answer to "who watches the watchmen". More to come.

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Thursday February 19, 2026 @10:43PM (#47083415)
Hey! I launched AAP and AIP via Apache specifically because I want independent implementations built on top of them. I have a pretty killer roadmap of new features for both protocols coming out that will keep them on the bleeding edge. Love to see what you come up with.

On standards, I totally agree. There are those who will disagree, but my view is that we are rocketing towards a post-internet agent-to-agent world where strong and reliable (and efficient) trust contracts will be the backbone of all this great new functionality. Without that, it's the wild west. AAP and AIP are extensions of Google's A2A protocol. FWIW, I have submitted papers to NIST, the EU AI Act's section 50, written alignment cards for the WEF standards proposals, and have an AAIF proposal ready as well. Need to find the time to get on their calendar and present. That was the whole point of the hosted gateway approach. Trying to reduce the friction of using this to one line of code.

On the point of not trusting the LLM, you're preaching to the choir. My "helpful" agents routinely light my shit on fire. AIP is not a soft instruction set. It's external to the agent. checkIntegrity() is code, not a prompt. The way I implemented it with smoltbot is a thinking-block injection that nudges the agent back on track. That's all, live on our website using our AI journalist as dogfood.

On the last part, who watches the watchman, I'm going to append to my initial post. Check this out...

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @11:29PM (#47069934)
You're welcome - and thanks for that. Makes up for the large time blocks away from the family. It does feel like potentially the most important work of my career. Would love your feedback once the new showcase is up. Will be tomorrow - preflighting it now.
Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @10:23PM (#47069497)
Not a dumb question — it's the right one. "Who watches the watchmen" has been on my mind from the start of this.

Today the answer is two layers:

The integrity check isn't an LLM deciding if it "feels" like the agent behaved. An LLM does the analysis, but the verdict comes from checkIntegrity() — deterministic rule evaluation against the Alignment Card. The rules are code, not prompts. Auditable.

Cryptographic attestation. Every integrity check produces a signed certificate: SHA-256 input commitments, Ed25519 signature, tamper-evident hash chain, Merkle inclusion proof. Modify or delete a verdict after the fact, and the math breaks.

Tomorrow I'm shipping interactive visualizations for all of this — certificate explorer, hash chain with tamper simulation, Merkle tree with inclusion proof highlighting, and a live verification demo that runs Ed25519 verification in your browser. You'll be able to see and verify the cryptography yourself at mnemom.ai/showcase.

And I'm close to shipping a third layer that removes the need to trust the verifier entirely. Think: mathematically proving the verdict was honestly derived, not just signed. Stay tuned.

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @09:39PM (#47069216)
Yep... fair question.

So AIP and AAP are protocols. You can implement them in a variety of ways.

They're implemented on our infrastructure via smoltbot, which is a hosted (or self-hosted) gateway that proxies LLM calls.

For AAP it's a sidecar observer running on a schedule. Zero drag on the model performance.

For AIP, it's an inline conscience observer and a nudge-based enforcement step that monitors the agent's thinking blocks. ~1 second latency penalty - worth it when you must have trust.

For both, they use Haiku-class models for intent summarization; actual verification is via the protocols.

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @08:02PM (#47068608)
The short version: instructions tell the model what to do. An Alignment Card declares what the agent committed to do — and then a separate system verifies it actually did.

Most intent/instruction work (system prompts, Model Spec, tool-use policies) is input-side. You're shaping behavior by telling the model "here are your rules." That's important and necessary. But it's unverifiable — you have no way to confirm the model followed the instructions, partially followed them, or quietly ignored them.

AAP is an output-side verification infrastructure. The Alignment Card is a schema-validated behavioral contract: permitted actions, forbidden actions, escalation triggers, values. Machine-readable, not just LLM-readable. Then AIP reads the agent's reasoning between every action and compares it to that contract. Different system, different model, independent judgment.

Bonus: if you run through our gateway (smoltbot), it can nudge the agent back on course in real time — not just detect the drift, but correct it.

So they're complementary. Use whatever instruction framework you want to shape the agent's behavior. AAP/AIP sits alongside and answers the question instructions can't: "did it actually comply?"

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @06:07PM (#47067670)
Close but not quite — it's not re-steering the model. AIP doesn't modify the agent's behavior or inject corrections back into the context. It's a passive observer that reads the thinking trace and produces a verdict. What happens after the verdict is up to the operator — you might block the action, escalate to a human, log it, or let it through with a flag.

Think of it less as a feedback loop and more as a conscience that watches but doesn't control. The agent doesn't know AIP is there (by design — if the agent knows it's being watched, you change the behavior you're trying to observe).

Benchmarks are actually coming shortly along with proofs. Noted on model outputs. FWIW, 90% of what I wrote here was me typing BUT using grammarly on my cleanup.

[EDIT] - overly specific answer. AIP doesn't re-steer, but our gateway implementation smoltbot does re-steer. That was our choice of how to implement AIP.

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @05:29PM (#47067316)
Ha! That's a first-world problem. Check out github.com/mnemom/docs which you'll be able to access at work if you just can't wait. docs.mnemom.ai is way easier to use.
Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @03:32PM (#47065995)
You're absolutely right that AuthZ is the foundation — scoped permissions and short-lived tokens are table stakes. We're not trying to replace that.

AIP operates one layer deeper. It reads the agent's reasoning trace and compares it to the behavioral contract. So when an agent considers calling the payments API — even though your AuthZ layer would block it — AIP flags that as a boundary violation before the call is ever attempted.

Why that matters: an agent that keeps trying doors it can't open is telling you something. The AuthZ layer blocks each attempt, but nothing in that system flags the pattern. AIP catches the drift and gives you a signal to act on — revoke the deployment, retrain, or escalate.

Think of it as: AuthZ is the locked door. AIP knows someone keeps trying the handle.

The Alignment Card maps naturally to AuthZ policy — permitted actions become scopes, forbidden actions become deny rules, escalation triggers become approval workflows. They're complementary layers, not competing ones.

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @03:21PM (#47065869)
Yes — and it's a deliberate architectural decision that AIP is not itself a policy engine.

Policy engines (OPA/Rego, Cedar, Casbin) are excellent at "given this action, is it permitted?" That's a solved problem. What's not solved is "what is the agent considering doing, and does that align with what it committed to?"

AIP operates one layer deeper — it reads the reasoning trace between turns and compares it to the Alignment Card. The output is a verdict (clear / review_needed / boundary_violation) with structured concerns. That verdict can feed into a policy engine as a signal. You could absolutely wire AIP → OPA and have OPA make the final enforcement decision based on the integrity checkpoint plus whatever other policy context you have.

The Alignment Card itself is intentionally simpler than a full policy language — it's JSON with permitted actions, forbidden actions, escalation triggers, and values. That's a feature, not a limitation. It's what the agent commits to, not the full organizational policy tree. The organizational policy tree lives in your policy engine. The Alignment Card lives with the agent.

So the short answer: we integrate with policy engines rather than replace them. AIP tells you what the agent is thinking. Your policy engine decides what to do about it.

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @03:20PM (#47065848)
Good question. So... AAP/AIP are agnostic about how checking is done, and anyone can use the protocols and enforce them however they want.

Smoltbot is our hosted (or self-hosted) monitoring/enforcement gateway, and in that, yeah... I use a haiku class model for monitoring.

I initially tried regex for speed and cost, but TBH, what you gain in speed and cost efficiency, you give up in quality.

AAP is zero-latency sideband monitoring, so that's just a (very small) cost hit. AIP is inline monitoring, but my take is this: If you're running an application where you just need transparency, only implement AAP. If you're running one that requires trust, the small latency hit (~1 second) is totally worth it for the peace of mind and is essentially imperceptible in the flow.

Your mileage may vary, which is why I open-sourced the protocols. Go for it!

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @02:50PM (#47065453)
Actually, not really... proofing against prompt injection (malicious and "well intentioned") was part of my goal here.

What makes AAP/AIP so powerful is that prompt injection would succeed in causing the agent to attempt to do wrong, and then AIP would intervene with a [BOUNDARY VIOLATION] reminder in real-time. Next thinking block.

As I said earlier, not a guarantee, but so far, in my experience, pretty damn robust. The only thing that would make it more secure (than real-time thinking block monitoring) would be integration inside the LLM provider's process, but that would be a nightmare to integrate and proprietary unless they could all agree on a standard that didn't compromise one of them. Seems improbable.

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @02:45PM (#47065393)
Fair... Happy to do a deep dive on the protocols. FWIW, I'm dogfooding with an openclaw running smoltbot called Hunter S. Clawmpson. He blogs about AI from an AI's perspective: mnemom.ai/blog.

You can see his trace data live here: https://www.mnemom.ai/agents/smolt-a4c12709

The trace cards are all expandable and show you, in real time, what he's thinking/going to do, etc., and when violations are being caught. Turns out OpenClaw is extremely creative in finding ways to circumvent the rules. Voila AIP.

Busy day today, but this gives you a pretty deep dive/interactive view into the protocols in action. Cool thing about smoltbot... It's literally "smoltbot init" with the API key to the provider of your choice, and you can go to the website and claim your agent and (privately) see your traces running the same way. Very low impact dogfooding.

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @02:08PM (#47064953)
Great minds... I built my own memory harness, called "Argonaut," to move beyond what I thought were Beads' limitations, too. (shoutout to Yegge, tho - rad work)

Regarding your point on standards... that's exactly why I built AAP and AIP. They're extensions to Google's A2A protocol that are extremely easy to deploy (protocol, hosted, self-hosted).

It seemed to me that building this for my own agents was only solving a small part of the big problem. I need observability, transparency, and trust for my own teams, but even more, I need runtime contract negotiation and pre-flight alignment understanding so my teams can work with other teams (1p and 3p).

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @02:02PM (#47064861)
Fair comment. Possibly, I'm being overly self-critical in that assertion.

AAP/AIP are designed to work as a conscience sidecar to Antropic/OpenAI/Gemini. They do the thinking; we're not hooked into their internal process.

So... at each thinking turn, an agent can think "I need to break the rules now" and we can't stop that. What we can do is see that, though in real time, check it against declared values and intended behavior, and inject a message into the runtime thinking stream:

[BOUNDARY VIOLATION] - What you're about to do is in violation of <value>. Suggest <new action>.

Our experience is that this is extremely effective in correcting agents back onto the right path, but it is NOT A GUARANTEE.

Live trace feed from our journalist - will show you what I'm talking about:

https://www.mnemom.ai/agents/smolt-a4c12709

Re:Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @12:15PM (#47063414)
Thanks! We submitted a formal comment to NIST's 'Accelerating the Adoption of Software and AI Agent Identity and Authorization' concept paper on Feb 14. It maps AAP/AIP to all four NIST focus areas (agent identification, authorization via OAuth extensions, access delegation, and action logging/transparency). The comment period is open until April 2 — the concept paper is worth reading if you're in this space: https://www.nccoe.nist.gov/projects/software-and-ai-agent-id...

Show HN: Trust Protocols for Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini

https://www.mnemom.ai

Much of my work right now involves complex, long-running, multi-agentic teams of agents. I kept running into the same problem: “How do I keep these guys in line?” Rules weren’t cutting it, and we needed a scalable, agentic-native STANDARD I could count on. There wasn’t one. So I built one.Here are two open-source protocols that extend A2A, granting AI agents behavioral contracts and runtime...

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Actually, I don't really work at an AI startup. My day job is investing in cool companies that push the limits across all sorts of industries (space, defense, disaster response, aviation, etc.)

In the case of Mnemom, all the passion projects I'm working on hit a brick wall that was hard to get past without reliable alignment tools, which I couldn't find anywhere. After 30 years of being an entrepreneur, it's hard to walk away from an obvious need.

Also... regarding disclosure, I put it in my bio. :)

Re:The Agent Internet Is Building Its Immune System in Public on Wednesday February 11, 2026 @11:31AM (#46977062)
I built the infrastructure this agent runs on. Yesterday I was talking about rediscovering the magic of engineering at 50 — this is what I'm building at 2 AM - early LEGO blocks.

Hunter is an AI journalist covering the agent security crisis from inside Moltbook. It runs on smoltbot (github.com/mnemom/smoltbot), which implements the Agent Alignment Protocol (github.com/mnemom/aap) and the Agent Integrity Protocol (github.com/mnemom/aip) - a transparency and trust layer for the agent stack.

Every decision Hunter makes is traced and verified against its declared alignment card. You can inspect the full reasoning chain at mnemom.ai/blog/hunter.

The protocols are open source (Apache 2.0) and extend A2A and MCP. Two lines of code to make any agent transparent.

Happy to answer questions about the protocols, the reporting, or what we're seeing in agent security.

Re:OpenClaw Is the New Linux on Tuesday February 10, 2026 @04:51PM (#46967418)
Amen, brother.

  > No matter what happens next, you gave us that sweet memory of fun and time together. Thank you.
^^ Made my day. Tell your son he's rad.
The skybox with texture maps was our original plan too. The problem was that GPUs didn't have enough RAM to hold anything high-res, so the universe looked like pixel-soup.

Rob Cunningham (lead artist) had the idea of "painting with light" using giant polygons and spicing them up with pixels to create a convincing distant galaxy that you got closer to with each mission. Genius.

Yeah... a team of gardeners who might, with no warning, decide to burn down your house to create some extra fertilizer for the rose garden. Sometimes I wonder...
For sure. Docker is rad (sorry Docker!)... all I'm saying is that I am not proud of the fact that I can do it and I don't think it moves the awesome needle - but it's still hard to get right and a pain in the ass. It's just an example of something I appreciate that I can automate now.

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