SIRHAMY

Big fan of Gleam! I am keeping my eye on it.

Agree that the types accomplish basically exactly what I want.

If it gets a decent community / ecosystem I think it would be a frontrunner for sure, especially for web apps.

One potential issue is that the runtimes it targets are not that great at processing - they fanout well on BEAM but may not be the best for heavy processing. Not a deal breaker but smth that others like F#, OCaml, Rust can outperform in if the other attributes do well.

Anecdotally I think AI is quite good at langs with lots of training data: C#, TypeScript Rust.

I also think it's much better with languages with more guardrails and clear syntax: think expressive types (sum types), brackets, and linters / compile checks.

Rust has expressive types and lots of compile checks to avoid classes of bugs via ownership / lifetimes and I think makes it a very good tool for agents to use.

C# is missing expressive types for me.

That might land with native unions but it's not there yet. There's workarounds with OneOf and Dune but those are kind of messy.

I think expressive types on dotnet are possible - I am a big fan of F# and those types are very good. So I think C# will get there but I can't say it's there yet.

Another F# fan here =)

I really like it for building backends but I haven't found the frontend story as compelling. Currently I use F# for my API and then use a standalone frontend (currently SvelteKit) to try and get the best tool for backend / frontend.

Q: How's your experience been with F# frontends? I'm assuming you're using Fable?

I've been building MVPs for the past yearish with this stack. Some of these choices are newish / smallish but it's the simplest, most enjoyable stack I've tried so far.

- Frontend: SvelteKit (Dockerized)

- Backend: F# / .NET running Giraffe (Dockerized)

- Data: Postgres (Managed - currently GCloudSQL)

- Hosting: Serverless Containers (currently GCloudRun)

I built a boilerplate for this to make it easier to improve / spin up: https://cloudseed.xyz

Oh wow - I thought it was broken.

Nope, just loading.

Same (but I use F#)!

I find .NET to be great for backends though maybe not as great for frontends (there's just better stuff out there). So I use the best tool for the job and that typically means using something else for frontend.

Right now I use SvelteKit for frontend.

This is what I do.

* CloudRun - .NET in Docker * CloudSQL - Managed Postgres

- Solopreneur / Indie Hacker / Tiny SaaS scene. This is more an implementation strategy of my dreams of Financial Independence but I find these communities have large overlap. Building small, sustainable solutions to real-world problems to make a decent living. Not glamorous, but lots of freedom. Communities: IndieHackers and lots of people on Twitter.

- Simple Code. I think most system architectures / frameworks / languages are suboptimal - either being hard to reason about or a pain to code in, etc. So this bucket is about trying to find technologies that actually best support their usecases, regardless of what their adoption looks like. This led me to two scenes: Svelte / SvelteKit for frontend and F# for backend / general purpose programming and is now how I build pretty much all my apps (see: https://cloudseed.xyz). The subreddits for both these communities are good.

- Creative Coding / Technology - I used to be more involved here but now am more of an observer. Basically trying to use the power of computing to create cool things - mostly artistic. This comes in a range of forms but typically procedural / generative art is at the core. Subreddits r/generative and r/creativecoding are pretty active

This is cool! Great to see you've had some success here!

I've built something similar for my favorite tech stack but haven't had any sales yet. I find it useful in my own projects and I've seen other similar projects make some money (like JumpStart Pro for Rails) so thinking it's something around my positioning / offerings rather than full lack of a need.

Some things I think you're doing really well:

* Great sales copy and documentation

* Great aesthetics -> adds to "trust"

* Message bot for feedback

Qs:

* Q1: Did you do any customer research to help determine what features to build?

* Q2: What did you find (if anything) is the biggest reason people choose to use boilerplate rather than rolling their own?

For those interested -> CloudSeeed - SaaS boilerplate for Sveltekit + .NET + Postgres - https://cloudseed.xyz/

Working on some creative coding projects that I've been putting off for the last few years. Latest one I've released is https://coronation.xyz/ - a visualization of the spread of coronavirus around the world, which I built with threejs

Oh wow, I'd never heard of Cloud Run before. Just popped some numbers in that I think are correct and it did come within the free tier range.

See GCP calculator: https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/#id=36a5f437-98...

Not a storefront per se, but I think Blizzard's Launcher that includes most of their newer games (as well as Destiny 2!) is a good example of one that's gone from nothing to pretty-darn-good while the Steam client has been relatively stagnant.

At that point, you could probably bring in Legal. Not only are these just poor coding practices, but some of these things are very serious security vulnerabilities. If you've got contracts with clients, or even if you're licensed straight to individuals, it's a good bet that you're breaching some data security/privacy rules. Legal would definitely want to know and take steps to correct.

Woah, do you have an end goal with this. Willing to let people get their hands on it?

A nail as in its own rack to hang on. Because they value that broom and its mission enough to go through the trouble of creating a rack for it, you could imagine that they put some higher value in that mission (maintenance) and its role in accomplishing it.

At least, that's what I got out of it.