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Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 percent on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @02:41AM (#33965936)

How is this related to my comment of masks being a no brainer?

Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 percent on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @02:39AM (#33965926)

There were.

Why are you lying?

Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 percent on Monday December 12, 2022 @04:27PM (#33960606)

And an addition to your remark of 'not new': not sure if you nitpick or try to counter my point but you think that COVID as it is was nothing new? Nothing unknown and we should just have let it rip through the planet?

At least I don't know any other virus everyone got I know we're a few people had strong bad reactions and lasting issues for longer than a month.

Besides that, totally overrun hospitals with an highly contagious 'new' virus (including the risk you have with something normal while the hospitals were busy)

Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 percent on Monday December 12, 2022 @04:22PM (#33960514)

I can't rediscuss the whole corona pandemic with you.

But I'm stating that this simplification in the earlier comment is not as simple.

Independent of this, it doesn't matter as captain hindsight didn't exist in the beginning of all of this.

If a peer reviewed study comes to the conclusion that a lockdown was a shitty idea it doesn't make it a bad decision.

Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 percent on Monday December 12, 2022 @04:12PM (#33960355)

"seems" based on what?

What research?

For you personal?

Public transport mandated ffp2 masks though at the beginning and in Bavaria I primarily saw them.

But still of everything the mask thing is and was always a no brainer. Even if a good study might say later it did only save a few x people in comparison to the effort I don't mind.

At the beginning there was also a lot of isolation due to overwhelmed hospitals. They were real and still struggling.

The biggest issue in my opinion was that we as a society with so much knowledge and automitsation struggled sooo much with either people working from home or not needing to work.

Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 percent on Monday December 12, 2022 @04:05PM (#33960259)

Soooo you are what in your daily life?

Why have you not been part of the pandemic expert group?

I'm happy to get primary sources from you which you will easily be able to produce.

Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 percent on Monday December 12, 2022 @12:48PM (#33957696)

From pure weather point of view I would assume Australia would be better off.

But population density in Sweden is 24p/km^2 while Australia has 3.3people/km^2.

Scandinavian countries are at least known to follow rules quite well as the trust for the gov is high.

They do had social distancing rules for example. Closed some school levels and forbid mass events.

Sweden also had one of the highest death rates at the beginning of COVID.

I haven't followed Australia to more detail though.

Edit: Scandinavian countries are also known for their really good internet (remote work)

Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 percent on Monday December 12, 2022 @11:22AM (#33956469)

https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavirus-masks-risk-protectio...

This is from the well known max Planck institute from Germany (we're I live)

The other studies you can easily find are also from well known institutes.

Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 percent on Monday December 12, 2022 @11:19AM (#33956422)

Sweden has 10 Million people in a small area and have totally different weather and culture than Australia.

Australia has 25 Million people.

The Netherlands for example had a much more open COVID strategy than Germany but culture wise there were much less weird / crazy people spewing miss information than what happens in Germany.

Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 percent on Monday December 12, 2022 @08:56AM (#33954629)

You clearly need to step back and reevaluate your sources.

There have been plenty of studies done with / in regards of masks.

Also I'm totally lost on why you would ever rant on masks. They are easy to wear and do relatively good in comparison to the effort of wearing one.

I also find it tremendously shitty to write this in a way that it was always clear from the beginning how this new Virus would interact with us.

Why people like you think it's reasonable at all NOT TO BE careful for a totally NEW UnKNOWN airborne virus?

This is srsly your first response to a unknown new thread? Ignoring it?

And the situation at the beginning with alpha then beta and then delta was constantly changing.

And I really hope you are at least as opiniated about all the other scams and not just your 'covid scam' like homeopathic 'medicin' and other things like religion.