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Ideally everyone would only get the job that they verifiably deserve. Society does not scale to the level of the individual. We can't have an entire jury to judge whether vague criticisms like "They were good but too xyz" is actually grounded in their performance. Having injustice distributed evenly between the races is certainly better than doing nothing and having it being distributed unevenly.

> We can tell that it occurs, but we can't even accurately measure the degree to which it occurs. Our discourse generally just assumes that the degree of disparity is the degree of discrimination on the really, really awful assumption that disparities can only be caused by discrimination.

Plenty of studies have been done on this topic. I don't think it's controversial to say that disparities are due to discrimination

Discriminating in favor or certain minorities is as close as you can get to balancing the injustice. Consider how many covert ways there is for biases to systematically screw over people, and how impossible it can be to definitively prove.

* The things you were exposed to as a child. Whether or not you know/see people who look like you in a certain career path.

* Whether or not you feel like you fit in at certain classes in school.

* The biases of your mentors and whom they choose to invest in. People favor other people who they feel are similar. This impacts who gets opportunities for further training positions. Who they write recommendations for. Who gets opportunities for internships. Each of these choices compound, as people with more opportunities look better than people with less.

* The biases of your peers and coworkers. Who gets blamed when things go poorly. Who gets credit for successes.

On the individual level, it's usually difficult to point out exactly where the injustice occurs to know how to address it in real time. As a population however, you can tell that it occurs. People within these groups get no benefit of the doubt. They will have to overachieve to get the same opportunities as others. With that in mind, it becomes much more reasonable to essentially reverse discriminate. Given two people with the same resume, with person A being from an underrepresented group and person B who is not, the best candidate is likely A who has had the additional burden of biases.

Doing this at large actually will reduce the biases. As it becomes normal to see the underrepresented group in a career path:

* More kids will see people like them in the career, leading to more trying it

* Classes will be more diverse and welcoming so more will stick to it

* Mentors are likely more diverse as well and will give opportunities to other people that look like them

* When you don't stick out, it's more likely you'll be treated fairly by peers and coworkers

> Doesn't loan forgiveness just encourage MORE lending? Does a rational person base their lending decisions on a chance of politically precarious one-off presidential forgiveness?

The average person has more loans than were forgiven and the plan included more than just forgiveness. Again, it's a start.

> Should we cancel child support debts for any 18 year old who knocked up a girl after she begged for it? Just trying to figure out when 18 year olds are allowed to be held responsible for their debts. A child is also a big gift and investment worthy of society investing in, so if education is worth society paying for without 'trapping' the 18 year old, then we can also excuse 18 year olds of 'predatory' child support.

You're taking this to the extreme position that I want us to hold 18 year olds responsible for nothing ever. Also you seem to not understand that malicious contracts exist or that they can be invalidated even when signed. Maybe you just don't believe it's predatory in this case. IDK. Anyway, I refuse to entertain that student loans are comparable to child support so I'm done here.

I didn't say it's preparing them for adulthood. It's a start in preventing predatory lenders from trapping 18 year olds in loans they'll never get rid of.

Nah, the changes made today are a decent start. I'm glad moving out at 18 and working a minimum wage job worked well for you. It works out alright sometimes but I wouldn't want that for my kids

22+ wasn't mentioned in the quote...?

Kids are heavily pressured to go to college. Some kids are in fact under the threat of going to college or getting kicked out of their home at 18. That kid doesn't really have a "choice". They can't live off the minimum wage jobs that are the only thing they qualify for (and this assumes they'd be hired). As a bonus, the loans you're able to get depends on the income of your parents despite you being an "adult" and regardless of whether your parents help or not. You can end up with a ton of student loan debt without being irresponsible. We are treating 18 year olds as "adults" only as long as it's convenient.

The world is a very hard place to live in and we do very little to prepare 18 year olds for adulthood. Can't get a job or afford a place to live on their own. God forbid they make a mistake. It's cruel and predatory to give them loans they'll be stuck with for the rest of their lives unlike any other type of loan.

There's a ton of opportunities to work anonymously in blockchain. At my last job, we were paying 10k for a bounty to someone I was surprised to hear was a teenager. It's very accessible. The only challenge is you'll need a way to convert the tokens your paid in to dollars and you need to be 18 to get an account with Coinbase or whoever.

At my school, everyone was tested... but you needed a recommendation along with a high score to get in. I scored highly on the test year after year but was never given the recommendation necessary. I can't for sure say it was because I am a minority, but it definitely disenfranchised me

Ha, it's fun seeing this topic on hacker news. I've been in the extracting MEV for a while now. It's really fun and complex. MEV isn't going anywhere and not all MEV is bad. Some protocol owners solicit us to make bots for their protocol.

In regards to the negative aspects of it, there's a lot that individuals can do to avoid their trades from being exploited. Flashbots has also done a lot to mitigate the MEV related problems on Eth (some other chains are in way worse shape). Finally, there's some amount of common decency to not fuck up the network. If you break Eth to the point where everyone decides to leave, you've broken your toy so to speak.

I'm one of the oldest of generation Z born to parents who are the youngest of the boomers. I had completely unregulated access to the internet since age 7 because my parents weren't sophisticated enough to restrict me.

I understand just how manipulative addictive and dangerous the internet can be now. I've grown to be really paranoid about my own internet privacy. I think I would still allow my kid to use the internet unrestricted. I got into some shit I shouldn't have as a kid but it was overwhelmingly a positive impact.

That said, I would try and be very engaged in what my kid is doing on the internet in a supportive way so I would know if I needed to step in. I would schedule offline activities for them to limit screen time. I'd also try and steer them more heavily towards gaming which have social aspects to it, but less likely to cause self-esteem issues or rage-bait you than the social media platforms

Yup it's more like risk of investment. Someone wealthy can risk a lot more than someone poor can without worrying about putting food on the table. They can afford many more lottery tickets and the poorer person is probably gonna have to play it safe as an employee for a while. That's a good case for evening the playing field with something like UBI. No one gets a check according to how much they need the money

In my opinion, the amount of risk taken on has a large role to play in the vast difference in outcomes. Starting a company would be like buying a bunch of lottery tickets. For every winner, there's a huge number of people who lost a ton of money or are just generally doing worse than if they had chosen a stable career. The key benefit of being an employee is protection from this risk. Contract work could be in between the risk/reward of a startup and the risk/reward of an employee. An employees could get paid significantly more doing the same kind of work on a contract basis, but a lot still choose the least risky option of being an employee. As an employee, you're not getting a million dollar check, but you do get consistency and a timely paycheck.

A fair wage doesn't necessarily have to be tied to the amount of money the founder receives.

It's the fact that decentralization is now an option for those things when centralization used to be the only option

There are some very interesting technical challenges that NFTs are being used for. Stuff like baskets of assets, appraising and taking out loans on assets, and certain distributed games like aavegotchi. At the end of the day, representing non-fungible assets is something useful. It's just that most people's exposure to it is seeing someone riding the hype to sell something that would probably have sold for a lot of money without being on the blockchain. Nothing wrong with that either if both sides are happy with the deal.

There are a lot of interesting technologies being worked on in moving real world data on chain as well. I'd highly suggest you look into chainlink. They cover all sides of the vulnerabilities associated with getting accurate data when you could be trusting a potentially malicious data provider.

I wish hn would cover some of these more often

Maybe the US needs to change it's regulations. It's handling of cryptocurrency is hostile to legitimate use of the technology. The current tax situation being the worst of it in my opinion

And the school's gonna eat that 20 million dollar lawsuit for it. Witch hunts on social media are one thing. Forcing students out on on a rumor of something that happened years ago is another

It's really incredible that the adults took a rumor so far without hearing all sides of it. Sounds like the boys had their whole lives upended for a picture of some stupid green face mask they didn't even intend to share publicly

It's only getting worse for the next generations. The stupid stuff you do before you know better is suddenly judged much harder than it should be. I don't feel like the resulting punishment was appropriate even if it was a legitimate blackface picture. Teens can be offensive without necessarily understanding the effects it has on others. It's very possible to be an asshole at 14 and turn into a better adult without needing to be traumatized

I had been working on this project https://github.com/Fluffy9/Zenbase. I've been trying to figure out what it's good for and making an Agar.io like game is one thing I've started on. Combined with the nts library here to synchronize the clocks of devices https://github.com/gundb/gaming, I think it would be possible

I'm your age :)

I started my current one in college. Since high school I had every intention of making a living starting my own business, so that was the plan all along. I've been on hacker news since my early teens (different accounts) and I've been doing projects about just as long.

I'm working full time on my business. If the times were different, I'd look for a part time job serving coffee or something. I went back to living with my parents after college (probably a mistake), so I don't worry about supporting myself.

By now, I am pretty good at recognizing what a good idea is, and getting from idea to shipping something. I'm working on my marketing skills and being patient.

You say you're struggling to start, I imagine there is something specific that makes you feel that way:

Do you have an idea yet? How far have you gotten? Are you afraid to quit your job? Are you having difficulties putting in the time and effort?

I'm not sure why this article is so controversial. Whether her app deserved funding or not wasn't what the main point of the article was. No one is saying they are obligated to fund a startup because a person is black.

If VCs want to claim to put effort into supporting black founders, then they should follow through on that with their actions. They had committed to meeting and helping black founders. Ignoring emails and generic responses is in no way helping. They could have still said no and been more accommodating as they claimed they would do.

I'm on hiatus on my main project due to the virus. I came up with https://unirender.io in my spare time.

It does prerendering of React/Vue/etc SPA similar to https://prerender.com. It functions as a cdn however, so it is a simple dns change instead on integrating it into a server.

It's not as fast as I would like and it's not really tested either. It's gonna be free for a long while. I keep meaning to clean it up a bit more so I can publish it on github

I just recently added some features and fixed some bugs. I think it's good enough to show. I'm also doing Startup School for this project