Re:Ronda Rousey fights like a statistical outlier
by adventured on Sunday August 02, 2015 @02:58PM
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Rousey's best shot against a comparably sized male fighter, would be an armbar. She is a relatively poor striker. It's why there's even a discussion to be had about her beating male fighters her size - her specialty around armbars. It's pretty obviously understood what comparable male fighters would do to women fighters like Bethe Correia. Everything else would give Rousey a lot of problems. Her ability to grapple with a comparable top-ranked male fighter that is even just 1/3 stronger would be very problematic.
Re:Ronda Rousey fights like a statistical outlier
by petegrif on Sunday August 02, 2015 @07:36PM
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She would have no chance of getting a male fighter to tap out with an armbar. All male fighters know how to defend against an armbar and they are so much stronger she'd never keep one on against a male opponent.
Re:Ronda Rousey fights like a statistical outlier
by chrisherring on Monday August 03, 2015 @12:34AM
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Getting a pro male fighter in an armbar would be unlikely for Rousey however if she got in position I wouldn't bet against her.
An armbar works on the principle of leverage, in this case the bicep muscle vs the same muscles used in a deadlift. If Rousey had a male fighter in an armbar the strength difference is not going to be the deciding factor. Also all fighters know how to defend an armbar, RNC, triangle etc yet they still tap to them.
Re:Ronda Rousey fights like a statistical outlier
by vehementi on Sunday August 02, 2015 @11:22PM
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Really, an armbar is just a contest of strength and being 50%-100% stronger lets you brute force out of it?
Re:Ronda Rousey fights like a statistical outlier
by petegrif on Monday August 03, 2015 @12:14AM
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No. It isn't just a 'contest of strength.' Leverage is very important which is why men can tap out other men. But a certain amount of strength can overcome mechanical advantage and men have that much more strength.
This is indisputable.
However, strength only in one factor, and there are many that contribute to the success in an MMA fight.
There are also key differences in how you measure strength and how that matters in a fight.
Daniel Cormier has significantly higher stats around olympic lifts, and routinely manhandles his opponents. Against former champion Jon Jones, however, Jones matched him, and was able to out wrestle the former olympian.
Saying it more plainly, just because men are naturally stronger than women, doesn't mean that men are naturally better fighters.