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Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by pyre on Tuesday December 15, 2009 @09:59PM (#998011)
> because Americans don't let their kids die to avoid pissing off the environmental lobby.

Don't point that at everyone. I'm an American, and a father-to-be. I would rather deal with the issue in a way that is morally responsible, than just "do whatever it takes to prevent any harm from coming to my child."

Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by tptacek on Tuesday December 15, 2009 @10:06PM (#998022)
I'm an American, a father of two, and about as far to the opposite end of the political spectrum from Patrick as you can get, and if we're voting, I'm with him. Kill the damned mosquitos. I've had a kid in the hospital for something very serious before.
Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by pyre on Wednesday December 16, 2009 @06:19PM (#999967)
It's not as simple as "kill the mosquitos." What if "kill the mosquitos" meant "burn down all the forest and destroy all of the wetlands." Are you about to destroy the world to save your child?
Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by patio11 on Wednesday December 16, 2009 @06:38PM (#1000027)
It says a lot about me that I don't even consider this to be a difficult question: I would burn every forest, pave every wetland, and dance over every eggshell to save one African kid I have never met.

That said, it is a false choice. Look at the CDC graphs: we've already annihilated malaria on two continents. North America and Europe strike me as pretty livable. I'm quite willing to do that everywhere.

Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by Tichy on Thursday December 17, 2009 @06:04AM (#1000802)
That sounds a bit silly though - as you said, a false choice. Surely you wouldn't want to pave over the whole continent. There are other ways to save the children than to destroy everything. It's also a question if humans have to expand everywhere.

If it all is such a no-brainer for you, I wonder what other choices you make in your life to save lives in 3rd world countries? For example CO2 consumption? To be honest, I don't buy your no-brainer attitude.

Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by tptacek on Wednesday December 16, 2009 @11:00PM (#1000391)
I have to consider whether killing mosquitos creates a world where I'll eventually have to teach my kids to painlessly kill themselves, a la The Road, but apart from that for my own family it's an absolute no brainer.
Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by pmorici on Wednesday December 16, 2009 @06:37AM (#998585)
Are you saying putting a child at risk of life threatening disease to save the mosquitos is acting morally responsible?
Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by Tichy on Wednesday December 16, 2009 @08:06AM (#998673)
I don't think concern for mosquitos was the main reason for banning DDT.
Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by patio11 on Wednesday December 16, 2009 @06:39PM (#1000032)
Of course not -- environmentalists don't value mosquitoes more than Africans. To say that would be a monstrous calumny.

Environmentalists value birds over Africans.

Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by Tichy on Thursday December 17, 2009 @06:06AM (#1000805)
I don't know the backgrounds, but I thought that essentially having DDT in the food chain is undesirable.

Would you spray your backyard with DDT to save an African kid? Granted, if it was the only way, maybe, but overall I personally would rather not (then I would rather put up a tent for the African kid and relocate it to my DDT free backyard).

Re:The inconvenient truth about malaria by Tichy on Thursday December 17, 2009 @08:28AM (#1000949)
OK, now I have read most of the Wikipedia entry on DDT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT

I have to say I am speechless by the stupidity of your comment.