Re:The Future of American History
by mrwilliamchang on Thursday July 30, 2015 @02:42PM
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Great quote towards the end of the article: "Not all students are convinced they need to know a great deal about U.S. history anymore. Some believe in the power of the global marketplace to shape their present and future lives, and therefore see our hallmark U.S. institutions — the Constitution, citizenship, federal government system ... and the histories attached to them — as arcane compared to the new worlds that technology, innovation and consumption are spawning."
Re:The Future of American History
by walterbell on Thursday July 30, 2015 @02:10PM
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Are there academic history programs focused on the history of engineering, science and technology? These will of necessity reference the surrounding sociopolitical context, while bringing light to patterns that remain relevant to modern STEM disciplines.
Re:The Future of American History
by digikata on Thursday July 30, 2015 @03:25PM
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This might be more of a resource than a program of study, but the Computer History Museum runs an Oral History collection which collects first hand discussions from the people at the point of development of many computing technologies.
Re:The Future of American History
by WalterBright on Thursday July 30, 2015 @03:04PM
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"especially because I teach American history in a way that is more inclusive and challenging of dominant myths than most of them were exposed to in high school."
Sometimes I think that just what is politically correct has changed, and a different set of myths is now taught.
"to teach painful histories — histories of slavery, Native American genocide, Jim Crow and lynching, Japanese internment"
There's a heluva lot more to American history than the bad things.
Re:The Future of American History
by rrss1122 on Thursday July 30, 2015 @03:15PM
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I agree with you - what is politically correct has changed. I think it often changes to be what is most convenient to those in power.
There's a huluva lot more to American history than the bad things, but recent trends I see make me fear that even the bad things will be swept under the rug. You see stories pop up all the time of colleges restricting speech because it hurts somebody's feelings. This is slowly starting to happen to public speech as well. As the article says, history is painful to face, and students today are more unwilling to put up with pain and more likely to demand that they not be subjected to any pain.
Perhaps that just reflects what has been true of history, that it is often rewritten to convenience the ruling class and pacify the peasants.
Re:The Future of American History
by WalterBright on Thursday July 30, 2015 @03:53PM
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One thing about myths - Stephen Ambrose wrote a book "Nothing Like It In The World" about the building of the first transcontinental world. He wrote in the Acknowledgements that:
"I had been taught to regard the railroad builders as the models for Daddy Warbucks. The investors and builders
had made obscene profits which they used to dominate state and national politics to a degree unprecedented before or since. John Robinson's book The Octopus: A History of Construction, Conspiracies, Extortion, about the
way the Big Four ruined California, expressed what I thought and felt. What made the record of the big shots so much worse was that it was the people's money they stole, in the form of government bonds and land. In my view, opposition to the Union Pacific and the Central Pacific (later the Southern Pacific) had led to the Populist Party and then the Progressive Party, political organizations that I regarded as the saviors of America. I wanted nothing to do with those railroad thieves."
However, once he got into it, he realized that about everything he knew about the project was a myth, and finished it with a transformed belief that it was the greatest American achievement of the 19th century.
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/oralhistories/
http://web.mit.edu/sts/
Took a fair number of classes in it while I was working on CS and generally enjoyed and learned a lot in them all.
Sometimes I think that just what is politically correct has changed, and a different set of myths is now taught.
"to teach painful histories — histories of slavery, Native American genocide, Jim Crow and lynching, Japanese internment"
There's a heluva lot more to American history than the bad things.
There's a huluva lot more to American history than the bad things, but recent trends I see make me fear that even the bad things will be swept under the rug. You see stories pop up all the time of colleges restricting speech because it hurts somebody's feelings. This is slowly starting to happen to public speech as well. As the article says, history is painful to face, and students today are more unwilling to put up with pain and more likely to demand that they not be subjected to any pain.
Perhaps that just reflects what has been true of history, that it is often rewritten to convenience the ruling class and pacify the peasants.
"I had been taught to regard the railroad builders as the models for Daddy Warbucks. The investors and builders had made obscene profits which they used to dominate state and national politics to a degree unprecedented before or since. John Robinson's book The Octopus: A History of Construction, Conspiracies, Extortion, about the way the Big Four ruined California, expressed what I thought and felt. What made the record of the big shots so much worse was that it was the people's money they stole, in the form of government bonds and land. In my view, opposition to the Union Pacific and the Central Pacific (later the Southern Pacific) had led to the Populist Party and then the Progressive Party, political organizations that I regarded as the saviors of America. I wanted nothing to do with those railroad thieves."
However, once he got into it, he realized that about everything he knew about the project was a myth, and finished it with a transformed belief that it was the greatest American achievement of the 19th century.
(It really is a marvelous book, too.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/06/...