Think women in tech is just a pipeline problem?

Re:Think women in tech is just a pipeline problem? by ozim on Tuesday July 28, 2015 @03:12AM (#9959967)

There was article on HN some days ago maybe even weeks which was showing IT compared to other fields. It was about how many women work in field and for IT it was lot less than other. It was showing percentage in years so in 80's there was a lot more women in IT than now. Sorry but cannot find article, maybe someone will have link.

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Re:Think women in tech is just a pipeline problem? by malandrew on Tuesday July 28, 2015 @04:02AM (#9960133)

I'm also generally curious about the figures for men in female dominated industries. I'm a senior software engineer now, but I graduated with a degree that would have had me working in an industry that was overwhelmingly female (fashion). I think it's like 95% female. Most of my classmates were female. I didn't go into that industry because other opportunities cropped up and because that industry doesn't pay anyone, man or woman, well and you're expected to work for years for very little to get anywhere career-wise. Not once during school or after it did I feel disadvantaged in a school/work environment where I was very much a minority (straight cis male).

I have been unable to find any figures, but I suspect that fashion was an industry that had a lot more men working in it up until the 1980s.

http://amfi.nl/boys-fashion-industry-gender-ratio/

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Re:Think women in tech is just a pipeline problem? by ousta on Tuesday July 28, 2015 @04:18AM (#9960184)

I worked in the web advertisement on a big fashion account in a 80% female team. the PM was promoting women just because they are women and she even wanted to hire some support engineer interviewed her and seeing that she had a good feeling because she was in a similar feminist assocation than her she hired her as a regional project manager with double pay and they hired a support engineer in india.

trust me. the environment we are making women and feminism grow in is insane for men as for women and against work ethics.

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Re:Think women in tech is just a pipeline problem? by malandrew on Tuesday July 28, 2015 @04:41AM (#9960249)

Strangely, I'm not terribly bothered by your story because an attitude like that strongly held means there is little to no chance I'd end up in such a toxic environment for me. This big upside is that it saves the time and energy possibly I would have invested in a place that is going to suck.

As I grow older I've learned it's not merely enough to know where you want to want. You also need to know where you don't want to work. Extreme overtly environments like that make that choice really simple.

There will always be people workplaces where such bigotry thrives. We should minimize how common such workplaces are. At the same time, there is a benefit of have a few workplaces here and there that attract and retains such people because it keeps those people from entering the labor market and being employed at a company with men and women who would rather not deal with such bigoted bullshit.

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