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Re:Varoufakis reveals cloak and dagger 'Plan B' for Greece, ... by asgard1024 on Monday July 27, 2015 @12:07AM (#9953274)
It's sad to see them (Varoufakis/Tsipras) being crucified for this. Ironically, it was the Eurozone "leadership" that used threat of Grexit in negotiations, by not accepting any compromise. It only shows they have the "punish someone" mentality, at the cost of Eurozone's future.

I guess that's politics, damned if you do, damned if you don't. Couple days ago, Tsipras was criticized for not having plan B.

Re:Varoufakis reveals cloak and dagger 'Plan B' for Greece, ... by tptacek on Monday July 27, 2015 @12:10AM (#9953289)
It's not that they had a Plan B, but what that plan was. Their Plan B was essentially a coup, instrumented through the financial system.
Re:Varoufakis reveals cloak and dagger 'Plan B' for Greece, ... by asgard1024 on Monday July 27, 2015 @01:32AM (#9953511)
I am genuinely curious - what would be a correct Plan B? I am not sure how could you have a Grexit without it being a coup.

Personally, I am not a big fan of central bank independence, as a concept. There is always some dependence, because institutions are staffed and constructed by humans, and I think proclaiming independence is a bit muddy in democracy. If Tsipras took control over Greek Central Bank, it would still have greater democratic legitimacy than the control Eurozone leaders have over ECB (the fact they have some I think can be seen from the fact that ECB didn't provide liquidity to Greece before the referendum - really independent CB in a monetary union would have to do that anyway and let the politicians face the consequences).

(I am really torn here, because, even though I wish Eurozone to succeed, sadly, the existence of EZ and ECB was not established in a democratic process, as it should.)

Re:Varoufakis reveals cloak and dagger 'Plan B' for Greece, ... by Tomte on Monday July 27, 2015 @01:42AM (#9953545)
Easy: let parliament vote for Grexit.
Re:Varoufakis reveals cloak and dagger 'Plan B' for Greece, ... by fwn on Monday July 27, 2015 @02:59AM (#9953776)
That's not practical. The plans would've been leaked and people would've tried to take advantage of it.

The idea that a parliamentary decision would have been better than one from the cabinet because the legitimating chain would've been slightly shorter sounds like a rather esoteric reason to judge their actions on.

But as opponents this is a great opportunity. They'll get crushed, I guess.

Re:Varoufakis reveals cloak and dagger 'Plan B' for Greece, ... by vixen99 on Monday July 27, 2015 @09:43AM (#9955101)
You mean he's being criticized. Crucified is the disgusting fate meted out to some people in Syria and Irak. Using it as a metaphor here is maybe like hitting a note fortissimo when it's marked forte or even mezzo forte.