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Re:Domesticating applications, OpenBSD style by justin66 on Wednesday July 22, 2015 @10:21AM (#9929770)
> That is fine and dandy, but when someone criticizes Theo's work in the same scornful manner, it's suddenly 'narrow-minded', 'willfully ignorant' and part of a 'vendetta'.

Attacks on Theo are the opposite of interesting but that spender guy lashes out at his follow commenters:

Oh sorry, I forgot LWN readers require me to do all their homework for them

And so on.

I'm not sure what is going on when a guy who is apparently a professional pulls a from my parents basement in Wyoming I stab at thee! but it's not atypical of LWN comments.

On the other hand, there is plenty of useful stuff there sometimes. You take the bad with the good.

Re:Domesticating applications, OpenBSD style by gillianseed on Wednesday July 22, 2015 @10:49AM (#9929929)
>I'm not sure what is going on when a guy who is apparently a professional pulls a from my parents basement in Wyoming I stab at thee!

While 'Oh sorry, I forgot LWN readers require me to do all their homework for them' comes across as a petty remark (though hardly as hateful as you try to paint it), I've read a lot worse from for example Theo who is also 'apparently a professional', and of course from countless other 'apparently professionals', in countless places beyond LWN, like right here on Hacker News (yes, really!).

Vezzy-fnord totally disregarded the tone in which Theo characterised existing solutions while painting this spender guy as some bully driven by narrow-mindedness because he came from a 'Linux bubble' and I assume therefore could not accept the brilliance of Theo's solution or something like that.

To me it seems like this spender guy is providing strong criticism against this solution from a practical perspective, and vezzy-fnord chose to paint him as a 'narrow-minded' and 'wilfully-ignorant' through his tone (again totally disregarding Theo's same tone) in order to sweep the technical criticism under the rug (don't listen to him, he is on a 'vendetta'!) .

Re:Domesticating applications, OpenBSD style by justin66 on Wednesday July 22, 2015 @11:40AM (#9930245)
> Vezzy-fnord totally disregarded the tone in which Theo characterised existing solutions

Vezzy-fnord was commenting on the quality of LWN comments.

It's as if you do not understand that Theo did not comment on that LWN page...

Re:Domesticating applications, OpenBSD style by gillianseed on Friday July 24, 2015 @05:20AM (#9940864)
Sorry for late reply!

>It's as if you do not understand that Theo did not comment on that LWN page...

The comments in question where in large responses to Theo's claim, which in turn was part of the article on which the comments are based.

Vezzy-fnord used this to paint LWN comment section as being populated by narrow-minded, Linux-centric people with vendetta's, totally ignoring that the comments by 'spender' were perfectly in line with the comments typically uttered by Theo, whose solution was under discussion.

And as to further underline how this was all bs from start to finish on Vezzy-fnord's part, the guy in question (spender) who was making the aggressive criticism is not some Linux zealot, he is criticizing Linux security solutions in exactly the same manner.