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Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to HN less web-focused and more tech... by icebraining on Wednesday July 22, 2015 @09:23AM (#9929444)
Where are the SAP and IBM programmers?

Not talking about programming outside of their workplace, in my limited experience. At least for the ones I know, programming is not a lifestyle, it's just a job that pays the bills - they care about doing it well, then leave to meet their (non-programmer) friends and talk about anything else (sports, politics, etc). As far as I know, none of them frequent community sites.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to HN less web-focused and more tech... by albertoleal on Wednesday July 22, 2015 @10:41AM (#9929897)
This. Those that frequent such community sites would recognize this as the 501 manifesto.