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Re:No, I Am Not Lost – A Black Woman's Experience in the Sta... by andrepd on Tuesday July 21, 2015 @09:32PM (#9927180)
You may not like the implication, but it's there. It's a fact. Even when brought in via affirmative action, minorities are consistently weeded out at higher rates than, say, whites or men. No implications needs to be made because the statistics are there for everyone to see. And this is a bad thing, but not like you think.

This is where I mainly take issue with the contemporary SJW/PC types. The fact that some minorities (for the sake of argument let's take white men v black women) are underrepresented in the number of, say, CS graduates is a bad thing, a problem that needs solving. The way to go about this, in my view, is not, and I repeat, not, by just admitting/hiring more black women to universities/companies despite being lower qualified than white men. We could do this, and pat ourselves in the back for a job well done and leave with our outstanding moral fibre confirmed, and be very politically correct. But that changes nothing.

The fact is that to solve this complex issue we need to look into the root causes of the problem that causes black people to perform statistically worse in tests, or women to be less likely to enroll in a CS degree. And that takes a whole hell lot more effort than superficially sweeping the issue under the rug with affirmative action et al. It would be a massive undertaking that would involve shakeups at the core of our society. Naturally the champions of the politically correct aren't so inclined, and prefer to simply sit and be outraged by, and offering as only solution to simply "cheat" until the statistics seem agreeable. And that, I stress, alters none of the core societal problems that caused those twisted statistics in the first place.

I don't know about you, but I would prefer to see these problems rectified and true equality of opportunity be established rather than just shrugging it off and twisting the statistics until they are "good enough".

Re:No, I Am Not Lost – A Black Woman's Experience in the Sta... by tbrownaw on Tuesday July 21, 2015 @10:24PM (#9927363)
It would be a massive undertaking that would involve shakeups at the core of our society.

Maybe.

If the main issue is cultural attitudes (either of the people in question, or of the people running the schools), sure.

But if it's mostly about access to resources (as suggested in another post here, time-at-keyboard), that's merely a large undertaking and doesn't need to be coordinated as well. In this case, the greatest requires resource would probably be patience.

Re:No, I Am Not Lost – A Black Woman's Experience in the Sta... by codygman on Wednesday July 22, 2015 @02:45AM (#9928070)
A very anecdotal example is that my white parents were very lenient and I very few chores or responsibilities growing up so I spent my extra time on the computer, whereas my black friends were always shocked at how much free time my parents gave me.