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Re:The self-hating web developer by crimsonalucard on Sunday July 19, 2015 @10:40AM (#9911320)
You are right, or course, in terms of semantic politeness. The OP is, however, referring to the difference between say a ruby developer versus someone who just writes html and css. If both are within the category of web developers, what are some names to distinguish the two?
Re:The self-hating web developer by codingdave on Sunday July 19, 2015 @01:33PM (#9911980)
Why do we need to distinguish the two?

Doctors are all doctors, but there is a difference between a family doctor and a neurosurgeon. Lawyers are all lawyers, but a patent attorney is not a criminal litigation specialist.

It is fine to have a generic term for a broad profession, then get more specific if and when it matters.

Re:The self-hating web developer by crimsonalucard on Sunday July 19, 2015 @06:27PM (#9913081)
There would be. Because someone who only knows html and css has never really encountered an if-else statement in there entire lives. It's really hard for me to consider someone who doesn't know what an if-else statement to be a "programmer".

Perhaps, though, I can still refer to these people as "developers."

Re:The self-hating web developer by vinceguidry on Sunday July 19, 2015 @11:05AM (#9911392)
Front end vs. back end.
Re:The self-hating web developer by zuck9 on Sunday July 19, 2015 @11:57AM (#9911581)
Where does JavaScript belong then? I believe it's the most important thing for a front end dev.
Re:The self-hating web developer by vinceguidry on Sunday July 19, 2015 @01:55PM (#9912102)
Parent didn't specify, but usually on the front-end. I would disagree that it's all that important, certainly not more important than being able to lay out a page and style it without it turning into a mess. I've cleaned up crappy CSS work before, the only real solution is to throw it out and start fresh.

At my company where I'm the back-end guy, our front-end guy does most of the Javascript, but he has to get my help whenever he has to do anything non-trivial. Only a few projects a year ever has him needing my assistance.

Most companies' Javascript needs should be similar. Every once in awhile there will be a marketing push wih non-trivial Javascript needs, most of the time they can get by with basic jQuery. Hide this element, show it when there's an event.

Unless you're working for a news agency, making Snowfall every month, I'd be surprised if the business actually did need more. Of course, if the front-end guy decides he has to learn React, well, I'd say, go ahead, knock yourself out. But don't kid yourself into believing it's really necessary.

Re:The self-hating web developer by crimsonalucard on Sunday July 19, 2015 @06:30PM (#9913091)
That's different. What do you call someone who knows html and css but no javascript? "Designer" might be the industry term.